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[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 28 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Republicans are always evil. They don't do anything good. Ever. They're a known quantity. That's what we expect of them.

We expect the Dems to be better. And they get the smoke when they fail at that. Cutting Corp taxes. Border crackdowns. Genocide. Those are things that should exclusively be the pervue of Republicans. If dems run to the right they will always lose because the right was so triggered by Obama that policy doesn't matter to them whatsoever. It's purely teamsport for them. You can't appeal to them in any way. They see a (D) and vote against that person. Dems would never lose another election if they went only as far left as Bernie Sanders. We would have a perpetually booming economy and a high standard of living. But even that is far too far for the DNC Services Corp. So we get a gameshow host and a car salesman destroying everything.

[–] Alaknar@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago

Republicans are always evil

"Conservatives", not Republicans. Around 100 years ago the style of both parties in the US was almost exactly reversed.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee -4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Dems would never lose another election if they went only as far left as Bernie Sanders

lol

About half of America thought Kamala was too far left. The idea that Americans are secretly socialists just waiting for a real leftist candidate and are willing to tolerate progressively more fascistic politicians in the mean time is simply ridiculous and without any basis in reality.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Historically a lot of R voters would've considered voting D if they'd just stop trying to disarm the working class, but D leadership more and more seems to be the party of, "we know what's best for you" elitism. But the open border policies really hurt D's popularity. R voters don't consider themselves racist or anti-inmigration, they just want affordable housing and instead of blaming late stage capitalism, they blame policies that lured over ten million refugees in one presidential term.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

Democrats do not and never have had open border policies.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Not at all. She went too far right and a lot of people stayed home. Cuz one republican is as good as another. They both fuckin suck at literally everything. Except fucking up the economy. Republicans are great at that.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Campaigning with the daughter of a minor demon didn't help either

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Compared to the Demons we’ve got now? Pretty fucking minor IMHO.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 48 minutes ago

Nah, I'm not accepting that kind of Dick Cheney rehabilitation. That man is one of the most evil men to ever hold power in the US.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And do you have any actual reason I should believe that?

"Well, lots of people would have voted for her if she put on a keffiyeh and sang l'Internationale."

Why should I believe that? There is just no basis to believe there is some secret American socialist majority.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't call it a majority. But it's a bloc that dems cannot win without. That bloc has also been lied to for literally our entire lives. Grown jaded. And won't vote for empty promises anymore.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Evidently we can't win with you because sway like reeds in the wind.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

So they dodge the support of Progressives and lose because of it? Sounds like they need to support progressive policies. Like Obama did.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Name five policies Obama supported Biden did not.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 0 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

She promised to institute a tax on unrealized gains.

What constitutes "far right?"

Trump has concentration camps. Biden didn't. One assumes Kamala wouldn't. If you don't see a difference, it speaks to how privileged you are.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Trump has concentration camps. Biden didn't

Uh... The ICE haven't been created out of thin air in January... You just ignored them before because it was a democrat in the adminstration.

What constitutes "far right?"

Funding genocide in Palestine, running the ICE and deporting more immigrants than trump did in 2016 (look it up), maintaining the military industrial complex, increasing rates of homelessness and prices of healthcare and rent and tuition...

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee -4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Under Biden ICE wasn't sending people to extraterritorial prisons without due process.

So, the existence of Ukraine, homelessness and high prices equal "Nazi?"

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Under Biden ICE wasn't sending people to extraterritorial prisons without due process.

No, only Guantanamo operated that way. ICE was still a concentration camp though. Really grasping at straws aren't we?

So, the existence of Ukraine, homelessness and high prices equal "Nazi?"

Maintaining Nazi policy of genocide in Gaza (failed to mention that one I see), and of economic and police violence (1 in 4 black males above 30 years old have been through the prison system in the US) is Nazi, yes.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee -3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Have you ever considered the total failure of any politicians you support might have to do with your hyperbole?

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Just accept you don't care about genocide as long as it's a democrat enacting it, we'll be over quicker

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It would be a Likudnik enacting it.

And your insistence demonstrates my point.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's incredible that blueMAGA think that denying the Democrats role in the Gaza genocide does anything other than show everyone that they're wilfully dishonest.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee -1 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

Who is everyone? Because the majority of Americans backed the candidate to the right of them on Israel.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 50 minutes ago (1 children)

Everyone who hasn't had their head buried in the sand the last year and a half.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 1 points 11 minutes ago

So, do you just, not want to win any elections, ever?

[–] SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What is your definition of "concentration camps"?

Migrant detention centers and prisons were a focus within the "build back better" set of legislature and the ICE raids and campus crackdowns I'm assuming you are referencing are a continuation of the Biden administration's crackdown from well over a year ago.

If you're just referencing Guantanamo bay as a migrant detention center then every president since 1974 has been guilty of concentration camps.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

If you can appeal getting sent to it, it isn't a concentration camp.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 hours ago

Biden built the camps Trump is using. Check yourself.