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Experiencing societal collapse is wild yo (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 6 days ago by SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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Like, I wake up and see my flowers. Some bees. It's a nice sunrise. I open the news and it's just one big collapse of the west. Fascism is rapidly coming up. I'm in the middle of it but I still need to go to work to keep the make believe that is our society going. War might be imminent. Whether that's with Russia or the US.

And yet here we are, collectively pretending everything is fine.

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[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I see. My understanding differs some, at least on some of these. As far as I know:

China is on a clear upswing in a socialist direction and the way they went global with the "reform and opening up " was to help build their productive forces quickly (not any kind of abandonment of principles derived from marxism). And they are now building mutually-beneficial ties in other countries, such as through Belt and Road, which also makes it harder for the western empire to isolate and encircle them.
Russia is capitalist as far as I know, but not imperialist. See argument on that here: https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Imperialism
South Korea, aka: Occupied Korea is sure something. I suggest listening to the Blowback podcast series of Episodes on Korea if you want historical context. It really puts into perspective how much of a brutal proxy state for the US "South Korea" is and how much Koreans have endured both from US occupation and Japanese occupation prior to that.
India I'm pretty ignorant on, but my impression is probably about the same as yours, that they are far from in good shape.
Middle East territories/regions/countries: Well let's just say, the US-backed settler state "israel" there certainly does a lot of damage.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not sure how you can say that Russia isn't empirialist with Putin invading a neighbour in order to gain control. Putin, Trump and Xi talk frequently about "our vassals and your vassals"

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't know where you're getting the idea that they're calling people vassals, but this thread has some great resources on the Russia-Ukraine conflict: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/7357678

It helps put into perspective where it comes from and, importantly, how embedded western imperialist interests have been in it from the start. The western-driven narrative loves to portray it as some kind of unprovoked conquest project on the part of Putin personally, but that's just the west evading all responsibility for their actions and calling another country's leader cartoonishly evil as usual, very par for the course with how it functions; the west is obsessed with simplifying things to a binary of good and evil, with the west (of course) being the good.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Stories from Grandma for the history, State Russian TV for the recent stuff. Russians and Americans are both trying to acquire territory, to reclaim their fantasy Golden Eras.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I see. Well I don't know what to say beyond what I already shared. My sources and understanding of it do not line up with that.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 days ago

Actual experience is like that.