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Introduction

Why does Google insist on making it's assistant situation so bad?

In theory, assistant should be the best it's ever been. It's better at "understanding" what I ask for, and yet it less capable than ever to do so.

This post is a rant about my experience using modern assistants on Android, and why, while I used to use these features actively in the mid-to-late-2010s, I now don't even bother with them.

The task

Back in the late 2010s, I used to be able to hold the home button and ask the Google Assistant to create an event based on this email. It would grab the context from my screen, and do exactly that. This has been impossible, as far as I can tell, to do for years now.

Trying to find the "right" assistant

At some point, my phone stopped responding to "OK Google". I still don't know why it won't work.

Holding down the Home bar (the home button went the way of the dodo) brings up an assistant-style UI, but it's dumb as bricks and only Googles the web. Useless.

Home Bar Assistant

So, I installed Gemini. I asked it to perform a basic task. It responded "in live mode, I cannot do that". Asking it how I can get it to create me a calendar event, it could not answer the question. Saying instead to open my calendar app and create a new event. I know how to use a calendar. I want it to justify its existence by providing more value than a Google search. It was ultimately unable to answer the question.

Gemini Live

Searching the internet, apparently both of the ways I had been using assistant features were the wrong way to do it. You have to hold down the power button, that's how to launch the proper one. My internal response was:

No, that's for the power menu. I don't want to dedicate it to Assistant.

Well, apparently, that's the only way to do it now, so there I go sacrificing another convenience turning it on.

Pulling teeth with Gemini

So I ask this power-menu-version of Gemini to do the same simple task. I tried 4 separate times.

First, it created a random event "Meeting with a client" on a completely different day (what?).

Second time it just crashed with an error.

Gemini crashes

The third time, it asked me which email to use, giving me a list, but that list did not contain the email I was interested in. I asked it to find the Royal Mail one. No success.

So, quite clearly, it wasn't using screen content.

I rephrased the question: "Please create an event from the content on my screen". It replied "Sure, when's this for?"

Sure, when's it for

I shouldn't have to tell you. That's the point. It's right there.

Conclusion

There are too many damn assistant versions, and they are all bad. I can't even imagine what it's like to also have Bixby in the mix as a Samsung user. (Feel free to let me know below.)

It seems like none of them are able to pull context from what you are doing anymore, and you'll spend more time fiddling and googling how to make them work than it would take for you to do the task yourself.

In some ways, assistants have gotten worst than almost 10 years ago, despite billions in investments.

As a little bonus, the internet is filled with AI slop that makes finding out real facts, real studies from real people harder than ever.

I write this all mostly to blow off steam, as this stuff has been frustrating me for years now. Let me know what your experience has been like below, I could use some camaraderie.

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[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 60 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

The Assistan/Nest devices have gone to shit as well. When I first bought one about 5 years ago, it could:

  • play many games (voice-controlled text adventures, multi-player gameshow-style trivia and party games, etc.);
  • play music from my Google Music Library library with no commercials;
  • play podcasts from 3rd party podcast providers;
  • play almost any radio station that also had livestream feeds

Now all the games are gone, and 'podcasts' are just the small subset of podcasters who also upload their episodes to Youtube (whatever feed they used to use had almost every podcaster there was, even obscure ones); asking for specific episodes by episode number or date is totally broken. Playing radio stations is hit or miss, the voice recognition often picks a stream completely unrelated to the one I ask for; it is waaay worse at matching the callsign/city I ask for.

Playing music is intolerable. There's a stupid commercial for Youtube Music Premium after nearly every track. NO, I will not upgrade to your freaking Youtube Premium.

Enshittification, thy name is Google.

[–] badlotus@discuss.online 27 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Have you heard of Homeassistant? It’s a self-hosted smart home solution that fills a lot of the gaps left by the most smart home tech. They’ve recently added and refined support for various different voice assistants, some of which run completely on your hardware. I have found they have great community support for this project and you can also buy their hardware if you don’t feel like tinkering on a Raspberry Pi or VM. The best thing (IMHO) about Homeassistant is that it is FOSS.

Homeassistant Voice Control

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Voice control of devices you have in home assistant is cool, but I don't think I would recommend it to an average person who uses Google assistant. Sure it can turn the lights on and off if it's aware of those entities, but this user is describing playing games, asking for media streams, podcasts, all things home assistant voice does not support (certainly not out of the box).

[–] badlotus@discuss.online 1 points 38 minutes ago

Fair points! I’ve been tinkering with Homeassistant for a while now. The community has come very far so I’m hopeful that more advanced features will be added as the user base grows.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I got their voice widget, its slow and stupid.

Need to figure out how to connect it to a gpu

[–] jim3692@discuss.online 9 points 11 hours ago

NetworkChuck has a video explaining how to configure Home Assistant with voice, using Raspberry Pi and self-hosted LLM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvbVePuP7NY

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I have heard of it yeah! Definitely want to try it out.. just haven't gotten around to it yet.

Do you find the voice recognition is decent?

[–] badlotus@discuss.online 1 points 40 minutes ago

Yes, the voice recognition is decent. I mainly wanted a way to control some smart light switches without using a Google device. If you’re looking for something more advanced I don’t have any experience using his tool in that use-case.

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