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[–] Tramort@programming.dev 31 points 2 days ago (5 children)

A PACK is fifty bucks!? Not a case?

Damn.

Go aus.

[–] Gronk@aussie.zone 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Eh the tax on cigarettes increases every year I think it's literally $2 a smoke now, it was 1.67 when I quit.

I'm conflicted on this tax though, the money doesn't go anywhere it should. Our healthcare services should be propped up with this money because smokers are actively damaging themselves causing increased stress on the medical system, it could also be put towards harm minimisation in general not just for smoking but all sorts of addictions

But the government doesn't actually care about this issue, if you look at the stance towards vaping it's apparent that they tried this ban to prop up big tobacco considering the only 'legal' vapes on the market are manufactured by the big tobacco corporations

The other issue is this tax is severely damaging for low socioeconomic areas in Australia, who already have a high amount of smokers. Lots of places just sell cheap imported cigarettes for 20 bucks now, so that money is going to some kind of organised crime.

I just think it's a form of prohibition that's gotten out of hand, rather it should've been used to bootstrap and fund better infrastructure and policy around the issue.

[–] Oneser@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

I do not agree with your sentiments to vaping and Australia pandering to larger tobacco companies. Vapes are not nearly as readily available as cigarettes and the regulatory hurdles to approval are restrictive meaning that smaller companies who are not willing to obtain the certification, do not end up on the market. Nicotine content is also highly controll compared to other markets.

I believe the aim was to ban vaping overall, but they saw the wave of legal battles to get to that point and decided on this as a middle ground to save cost/effort. You could argue that putting them in pharmacies aligns them as a "health" product, which is not great...

Also, the increased cost of cigarettes is in itself a harm minimisation measure. The tax is meant to be a motivator to stop people starting or continuing smoking, independent of who they are.

I don't know what could be done better here, what would you suggest?

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