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[–] MrFunkEdude@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm not trying to "Pooh pooh" anything, but I do wonder if the old way of doing things is really effective in today's political arena?

Politicians these days only seem to care about re-election and since people now vote party over individual, I'm having a hard time seeing the effectiveness of such demonstrations. Other then letting like minded people know that other like minded people exist. Something that I think social media has been doing for a long time. But I don't think politicians really fear this kind of thing anymore. I think they know that people are entrenched in their parties and once it comes down to filling out the ballot, they wont care who the person is as much as they do that they are voting for "their side".

But maybe I'm wrong, which is why I'm participating today regardless of my ignorance.

And I'm not saying "don't bother". Try everything you can. I'm just saying that maybe it's time we figure out new ways to do things?

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 8 points 1 year ago

I think the reality is no one knows what will work, and that's why it's important to try things.

It's good to suggest new things too, but who are you addressing when you say maybe it's time we figure out new things? I'm frustrated with the old ways too, but to do new things requires organizing and community building around a new idea. I don't think it's very constructive to hand wave at the internet and say "we should do something new" without any suggestion or effort to plan something.

Organizing isn't my skill set either, so I think it's important to support what does come along even if it isn't the ideal thing we'd like to see. Nitpicking every effort for not being perfect will drain energy out of the participants, and it's good people are trying things. Just my 2 cents.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 3 points 1 year ago

Ideas come from people. The larger the pool of people who are engaged, the greater the likelihood that a "new way" will be invented. And that new way will need support in all kinds of ways from all kinds of directions, by all kinds of people. At some point, it's a numbers game.

As long as we're all pulling in generally the same direction, that's a good thing. I don't 100% agree with everyone who's pulling generally in the direction away from fascism, and I know that some of those same people have various disagreements with me. That's okay.

We don't have to be in perfect lockstep to be pulling on the same rope.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

oh man I have this in a lot of comments but businesses keep track of metrics down to the second. If it works there would be a severe drop in the graph today for businesses. Think in terms of how people react to the stock market diving three thousand points in one day. There is also a knock on effect in that lean pretty much won over six sigma for most bussinesses and they are highly reliant on historical metrics to do their ordering and supplying their spots from the supply chain. The leaner and more efficient the operation the larger the effect of an unusual drop in activity for a day. That is secondary again. Mostly its about making the graphs drop for the daily, weekly, monthly c-suite meetings.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When they can account for the anomaly, such as in the case of a blizzard or planned and openly discussed protests, they can easily account for the anomalous entry. If at the end of the quarter their books still balance because everyone spent the money on Thursday they would have spent on Friday then there is no actual impact being felt here. You are vastly overestimating the response to a single dip in the books while entirely ignoring the context around the dip.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

sure if this is the one and only thing. its the opening salvo. a shot across the bow. they can ignore it but they can't say they were not warned.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

But again, you're operating under this naive idea that any action is good and holds no potential for detriment. That's just not realistic. If I need to get to France from the UK there are tons of valid methods to get you closer but donning concrete shoes with the intention of walking across the ocean floor isn't going to work for obvious reason.

You're not just suggesting folks brave the channel in their concrete shoes, you're also trying to tell the rest of us that we're not allowed to point out the obvious flaw in that plan.

That's bullshit.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

its the opening salvo. a shot across the bow.

You don't even have an outcome you want to achieve. No goal, no demands, just a generic grumpiness.

It's like a Monty Python skit.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think you realise how much noise there is in that data though. Things as simple as traffic, weather, sports games etc can have a huge effect on retail spending.

Even with the metrics these companies collect, I doubt you could conclusively say any change in sales was due to this.