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More Democrats want a more moderate party, poll says. (www.thecentersquare.com)

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Data from a new Gallup survey suggests that close to half of Democrats want their party to move more toward the middle, while more than 40% of Republicans are happy with their party.

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[–] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 19 points 4 days ago (12 children)

How was Kamala Harris not the perfect candidate then? Why did so many Democrats stay home, when Harris was supported by Darth Cheney's daughter? It doesn't get more drawn to the "middle" than that. No one I have talked to said they wish Democrats were more conservative, anecdotal at best, but seems pretty suspicious to me.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago (5 children)

You think the Cheney's are/were popular within the Republican rank and file? She lost her primary for Wyoming's house seat in 22. She didn't make it to the general. She only won her primary with a majority twice in 18 and 20. The only Republicans she would have brought to the table were the Never Trumpers, who were already never voting for trump.

[–] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Who is popular with the republican rank and file? A significant number of his own cabinet members from the first term said he shouldn't Return.

You're moving the goal posts for this article as well. Who could Harris have cozied up to that was close to center? Who in the republican party can even be considered the moderate centrists? I imagine the reason Cheney lost her seat has much more to do with faux news dragging her through the mud because she had the audacity to investigate the obvious insurrection that happened and go against an orange turd than her not being "conservative" or popular enough to win.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Who she would've cozied up to wouldn't have made a difference. The issue that she didn't have a primary and probably her record as AG in California was the biggest turnoff for the base and generating turnout. The best thing she had going for her was she wasn't Trump.

And yes, the pushing the investigation was incredibly unpopular with the GOP rank and file. They get their news from Fox and the like. GOP friendly news sites that have turned on Trump aren't as popular anymore. It's why nobody talks about sites like Drudge Report. Going anti-Trump didn't win themselves more Democratic readers, it just lost them their base. Both sides should view going across the aisle as essentially political suicide.

[–] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nowhere in this article does it state what questions were asked or how many people were surveyed. I'm sure you could look it up, but I think it's almost irrelevant.

FTA:

This just days after Gallup released another survey showing of the five living American presidents, former President Barack Obama is the most liked, and former President Joe Biden is the least. Forty-eight percent of Americans surveyed had a favorable opinion of President Donald Trump and former President Bill Clinton, though more people were unfavorable toward Trump (12% answered as having ‘no opinion’ on Clinton).

Now how is it that Joe Biden, who was a very centerist candidate/president one of the least popular presidents? I suspect that Harris' biggest problem is that she was a no change from the Biden administration and just not trump. It's funny, I totally agree she should have never been anywhere near the Cheney's. Walz was a great choice for VP, and I think the only smart decision of her "campaign". Maybe if she had courted the same people that supporter Bernie or even AOC she would have had much better results.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think the biggest factor missing from this discussion are the people that voted for both Obama and Trump. This is where the fallacy of reaching across as a good thing comes from. Both sides want to win that voter and both sides misunderstand why both voted the way they did. Or if it is understood, getting the getting the entrenched base who is the party's power to buy in turns them off.

Taking Biden as a centrist as fact, he wasn't portrayed that way in the media by both sides. And that goes in favor for my argument as trying to be centrist is or playing favorable to the center is political suicide.

[–] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

Seeing as trump got about the same amount of votes as the last election, the deciding factor was the amount of "Democrats" that stayed home. I doubt there is much overlap between those who voted for Obama and then saw what trump did the first go around and said yeah, they want some more of that.

I'm taking biden's voting record as proof he was a centerist. The media plays whatever makes them the most money. 24hr news networks need to die off. It's painfully obvious when articles like this.

I agree being a centerist is suicide. The left needs to pull the right back to the middle a lot more than the other way around.

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