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[–] rzlatic@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. They came prepared, organised, with meticulous plans and goals. Trump is a figure for the masses, but administration behind him is a behemoth.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They came prepared, organised, with meticulous plans and goals.

Their plan is still basically a non-starter, though. Deporting the 11 million undocumented immigrants that live here is logistically impossible. At least, it's impossible if you want to have a small government, which is something that they want. Even with a larger more well organized government, it's difficult, and offers you no legitimate return financially. You're dissecting the two-tier labor system which you already had domestically. You could conceivably have a portion of this be a privately funded and organized sector, which would be maybe slightly more capable of doing a genocide, but it would still be hilariously inefficient and unachievable and not offer you any real wins. Rinse and repeat this fundamental set of contradictions for basically every goal that they have. They want to just straight up deny the idea of gender existing at all, and that leads to absolutely no plan in how to handle trans people's listed passport sex. Their voter base wants low egg prices, and yet they create a regulatory environment where bird flu will become a massive epidemic.

This isn't to say that they're totally incompetent morons, but they are legitimately disconnected from reality in a way which is both dangerous and highly unstable and contradictory at a fundamental level. The south did not lose because of some sort of fundamental lack of moral character, they lost because a slave economy is straight up incoherent and inefficient and offers you much less efficiency in the grand scheme. The nazis dedicated a shocking amount of energy explicitly to cruelty in ways which were both intrinsic to their ideals and actively made their war efforts much less effective overall.

I still don't have any confidence that this will not be a bumpy ride or that we will get out of it or that there won't be like, global nuclear warfare or whatever, or that lots of people won't die in the wake of it. I'm just making the sort of more basic point that with these people, on some level, it doesn't matter how organized they are. They're stupid on a much harder to solve level, than that.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 6 hours ago

Certainly. Project 2025 is a wing nut fantasy. They won't be able to implement half of it before tying their own shoelaces together. But they'll do a whole lot of damage in the attempt.