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I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?
this post was submitted on 06 Feb 2025
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Exactly this! You can't just "lesser of two evils" your way through life as you slide towards hell. "Lesser of two evils" isn't a choice, it's a hostage situation.
I had some vote blue no matter who nitwit yelling at me the other day about this. i asked them what are we supposed to do when 2028 is Mitt Romney (D) vs Trump (R). They said you vote Romney.
People who voter shame others when both parties have crossed their personal morals are the reason the Democats don’t ever run on anything substative. They have forgotten they have to earn votes. They’re not owed.
And they have forgotten that when they lose, real people suffer deeply for it. The democrats sin of apathy is often worse than the republican sin of cruelty. At least the republicans are honest about how they want to screw over the country.
Here is Chomsky explaining why yes, that is the more logical choice
https://chomsky.info/an-eight-point-brief-for-lev-lesser-evil-voting/
I had some nitwit self-described Chomsky-anarchist the other day who sounded a lot like you, went real quite after I shared that.
The lesser of the two evils didn't go after the bigger evil, offered nothing, said the economy was doing great as people suffered higher rent and groceries, and then wondered why people listened to the lying devil saying that they would fix their problems.
They don't want to offer solutions, they want votes.
Choosing the bigger evil ain't the way out of it though. Unless you are an accelerationist that believes things have to get worse before it can get better.
You can’t get out of a hostage situation by making out with either of the two bank robbers.
no one is making out, but you if it's life or death you would listen to their demands until help arrives/opportunities arise.
This 'logic' (and metaphors are not logic) is why help isn't coming.
then are people actually punching the robbers themselves?
The reality right now is the bigger robbers are now taking things even more brazenly.
By not voting, you are telling both robbers "both of you are free to do whatever you want"
God I hate the stupidity of blue MAGA.
I did vote. You don't know me.
Your stupidity, and the reason you can justifiably be called blue MAGA, is that you don't understand what the primary responsibility of the politician is, and instead blame the political parties failures on the voters. Because the Democratic Party can never fail. They can only be failed, right?
There is one group that can and should be blamed for identifying, and then happily handing power over to fascists. Hint: it isn't the voters.
Blaming the voters is some Stockholm syndrome level bullshit to protect the campaign consultants and other unelected assholes that got rich off of this loss. That is who you are protecting.
Now you are putting the words in my mouth. I have never once implied that democrats can never fail, IDGAF about how bad their campaigning is, because it's clear as day that republicans clearly wanted to get rid of the minorities in the country, they are just still the less shit option in the choice of 2 shits, and for the sake of immediate safety, you would had to choose the less shit option unless you decided it's time to fight (and by fight I mean actually no more business as usual, but as of now, the USA is certainly still business as usual).
What the non-voters did is literally shooting your own left foot for not running fast enough. Cool you now proved your point, and many of the minorities currently living in the USA have to suffer because of it, Mexico and Canada has to put up with this shit.
If people want to fight for change, wouldn't it be actually better to fight under less hostile conditions? With Musk taking over more and more of the government, the chances of success is dwindling, and with the minorities fearing for their lives and is now seeking to leave the country instead of staying to fight for it, the hope for the USA is bleak.
Instead of seeing my point more of blaming voters like you, my point is by populism, there's a lot of Americans really don't want the marginalized groups in their country after all, maybe there is indeed no hope and it's better to leave.