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Tesla knew Autopilot caused death, but didn't fix it::Software's alleged inability to handle cross traffic central to court battle after two road deaths

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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago

Didn't, or couldn't? Tesla uses a vastly inferior technology to run their "automated" driving protocols. It's a hardware problem first and foremost.

It's like trying to drive a car with a 720p resolution camera mounted on the license plate holder versus a 4k monitor on the top of the car. That's not a perfect analogy, but it's close enough for those not aware of how cheap these cars and their tech really is.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 18 points 1 year ago

It remains to be seen what hardware is required for autonomous driving as no company has a fully functioning system, so there is no baseline to compare to. Cruise (the "4k monitor" in your anaology) just had to cut their fleet of geofenced vehicles after back to back crashes involving emergency vehicles along with blocking traffic and attempting to run over things like fire hoses.

[-] MrFagtron9000@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Cruise and Waymo have self-driving cars, without safety drivers, driving around cities right now.

We know what hardware it takes - More than just cameras and some premapping is required.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one -1 points 1 year ago

Did you not read the second half of my comment?

[-] MrFagtron9000@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does cutting their fleet mean they stopped operating or they reduced the size of their fleet?

One of the crashes was a car running a red light and hitting the Cruise vehicle.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It means these vehicles are still crashing even when geofenced to operate in 'perfect' conditions with premapped destinations. This is not a fully functional system as they can't operate outside these city grids at low speeds in favorable weather conditions with a premapped route. Compare miles driven between Cruise and Teslas systems. One has several orders of magnitude more miles driven than the other and they're somehow doing it without all this extra hardware.

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

driving as no company has a fully functioning

Mercedes made level 4.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

Mercedes is level 3 only, and their system will only work in Nevada on a highway at speeds below 40MPH.

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