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[-] elvith@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago

Wait.... they did WHAT?!

I read the advert and just assumed, the suspect just tried to ran and they needlessly used guns to stop them instead of running after them or something like that?!

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

The suspect is not 100% blameless, he did hop the line, he was not following lawful commands, and he was holding a knife. Now that is a really sketchy situation because a knife can kill you real quick, real life is not like Hollywood. But he did not try to stab anyone with it and he was not threatening anyone. Cops love to talk about how a knife can kill you from 20 feet but that ain't gonna happen when they have already drawn on him. So none of that validates their response. They could have easily backed up temporarily, called for backup, tried the tasers again, waited for him to calm down a bit, or 20 other things than unloading their guns in a crowded subway station. Idiotic. The ONLY reason they should have fired is if the suspect was attempting to harm someone. I hope they are fired and charged with negligence at the very least, attempted manslaughter sounds even better.

[-] TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Not justifying the cops shooting up everything, but he 100% had a knife and was acting dangerously. They tried using tasers first which didn't work.

There are videos. People who are saying that a man was murdered just over couple bucks of fare are purposefully leaving out some crucial details. I get it, but it's dishonest.

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