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YouTube and Reddit are sued for allegedly enabling the racist mass shooting in Buffalo that left 10 dead::The complementary lawsuits claim that the massacre in 2022 was made possible by tech giants, a local gun shop, and the gunman’s parents.

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[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

I just don't understand how hosting a platform to allow people to talk would make you liable since you're not the one responsible for the speech itself.

[-] theluddite@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago

Is that really all they do though? That's what theyve convinced us that they do, but everyone on these platforms knows how crucial it is to tweak your content to please the algorithm. They also do everything they can to become monopolies, without which it wouldn't even be possible to start on DIY videos and end on white supremacy or whatever.

I wrote a longer version of this argument here, if you're curious.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

This is a good read, I highly suggest people click the link. Although it is short enough that I think you could have just posted it into your comment.

[-] theluddite@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Yes, but then I couldn't harvest all your sweet data.

Kidding! It's a static site on my personal server that doesn't load anything but the content itself. It's mostly just a PITA to reformat it all mobile.

[-] CasualWindVane@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Which article is it? The link takes me to the website main page.

[-] theluddite@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Huh really? Do you have JS turned off or anything? Here's the full link: https://theluddite.org/#!post/section-230

[-] CasualWindVane@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Hmm not sure. I use a client called Memmy for browsing Lemmy. Copy and pasting the link in my browser worked. Thanks!

[-] theluddite@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I bet memmy cuts off the URL at the "#!" for some reason. I'll submit a bug report to their repo.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

I agree to a point, but think that depending on how things are structured on the platform side they can have some responsibility.

Think of facebook. They have algorithms which make sure you see what they think you want to see. It doesn't matter if that content is hateful and dangerous, they will push more of that onto a damaged person and stoke the fires simply because they think it will make them more advertisement revenue.

They should be screening that content and making it less likely for anyone to see it, let alone damaged people. And I guarantee you they know which of their users are damaged people just from comment and search histories.

I'm not sure if reddit works this way, due to the upvotes and downvote systems, it may be moreso the users which decide the content you see, but reddit has communities which they can keep a closer eye on to prevent hateful and dangerous content from being shared.

Because you are responsible for hiring psychologists to tailor a platform to boost negative engagement, and now there will be a court case to determine culpability.

[-] whatisallthis@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Reddit is going to have to make the argument that it just boosts “what people like” and it just so happens people like negative engagement.

And I mean it’s been known for decades that people like bad news more than good news when it comes to attention and engagement.

They probably will take that argument but that doesn't instantly dissolve them of legal culpability.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

They set the culture.

Did reddit know people were being radicalized toward violence on their site and did they sufficiently act to protect foreseeable victims of such radicalization?

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Tell that to the admins of lemmy.world defederating from communities because they may be held liable for what shows up on their website.

You mean the cowards who are already operating in a safe-habor provision of the DMCA?

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz -1 points 1 year ago

Sure? I mean I think so. 🤔

[-] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

We should get the thought police in on this also, stop it before it has a chance to spread. For real though, people need to take accountability for their own actions and stop trying to deflect it onto others.

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