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The minimum penalty for that type of incident is 10 seconds. The T8 incident is unquestionably a penalty. The T4 incident was separate and if the FIA also penalizes that, it has to be 20 seconds total.
The FIA says the outcome of the incident doesn't influence the penalty, so by similar logic you'd think subsequent incidents would also not affect the penalty.
Agree with you, in my opinion Verstappen deserved that 20 seconds penalty (10+10). Anyway the regulation should be reviewed, the rule of the apex a bit absurd nowadays.
We had three 5 seconds penalties for pushing a driver off track last week. In all cases, the driver pushed off track lost position. Yesterday Lando cut the chicane after being forced wide and ended up ahead of Verstappen resulting in a gain of position. Considering all this, how is 10 seconds justified here for the T4 incidentยฟ? T8 was a much more egregious move by max and was proportionally punished.
Max was clearly behind when he ran Lando off the track. I'm betting the telemetry showed it was intentional.