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[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 12 points 23 hours ago

teaching kids they cannot trust authority

Which is still a valuable lesson

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

No, this isn't, "don't talk to the police". This is, "don't pay taxes, don't vote, fight the police, fuck everything, the system is rigged and all government employees are complicit in a system of cruelty."

One of those is a valuable lesson and the other is going to give us the next Unabomber.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 15 hours ago

Not saying your experience was a good thing by any stretch, but I do think especially in the U.S, we all run into that point at one time or another, when it really hits you that the "authorities" don't really have much stake in your well-being, and so usually disregard it.

A lot of times this will be in school, yeah, with nonsense "zero tolerance policies."

Other times it's the "You can trust me and tell me anything" HR department that fires you for "performance reasons" conveniently after being a harassment victim.

Eventually something goes the wrong way and you realize "Help ain't coming." And it sucks.

Ourselves and each other are who we've really got in the end. Look out for each other. <3

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, one time is a lesson. I'm more talking about the kids that are bullied for years, ostracized, and yes punished for the pleasure of being beat and humiliated multiple times a day. It happens in every school unless action is taken to stop it. Those kids? Those are the ones being radicalized.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The thing about taxes is it only works when you're a big fish in a small pond. Amazon Fulfillment Center doesn't have to pay taxes to the small Arkansas municipal government they functionally own. But you can be fucking sure that the extremely white sheriff and his Good'ole'Boy deputies won't tolerate a tax payment showing up late when it's the low-income black neighborhood Amazon Fulfillment Center workers who are on the hook.

That is, after all, the agreement between the city and the business. The city budget doesn't come from the company coffers, it comes from the salaries of the employees' paychecks. Rents are for Little People.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

I agree. We should really start centralizing some of that so Multi National Corporations can't just buy a town.

[-] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago

You say that like it's a bad thing...

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

We should have trust in the system. The system is supposed to be representational of the people that fund it through their taxes and elections for people like school boards, town councils, and DAs.

If the system is fucked, it's our fault...not the systems.

The root of the problem is that nobody wants systemic fixes. Everyone elected either wants to fix their own little corner independently or just ignore it and starve the beast. Neither work. Systemic problems need to be addressed systematically.

Let's look at bullying and the causes of it...usually the bullies are abused or neglected, and usually abuse and neglect comes from generational poverty. So you gotta fix that. But nobody wants to.

I've actually had a couple of my bullies reach out to me recently, now nearly 30 years later and they are parents themselves, apologizing for the shit they put me through because their home life was shit. Their words, not mine.

[-] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

usually abuse and neglect comes from generational poverty.

Worst bullying I dealt with was when I went to a (not cheap) private school, so I don't think that's all that relevant.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, it is generally considered to be a bad thing.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

It teaches the younger and weaker kids that they cannot expect administrators to act in their interests.

It teaches the older and meaner kids that they can act with impunity, safe in the assumption that administrators will look the other way.

The lesson is two-fold, and the end result is a cycle of bullying as the younger kids grow up knowing they can punch down without consequences.

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