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[-] samsy@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

First time I agree with the Raven. Switch to Linux!!! Windows is just a shitshow, we all watch and can't believe they are doing this. Win 11 will bring us one of the biggest hardware-waste ever in a world where we should spare with resources.

But hey, throw that 4GB RAM machine in the trash bin everyone wants Win11. So glossy and shiny, so hot right now.

[-] Digester@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Do you know what makes windows great? It just works out of the box with broad driver and software compatibility. Extensive hardware support (Windows 10 runs on any brand new hardware as well as old hardware from 12 years ago). Many professional software applications, such as Adobe Creative Cloud, Autodesk products, and Microsoft Office, are primarily developed for Windows. If you rely on specific professional software, Windows offes better compatibility and support.

Linux offers better security and has a large repository of open source software as well as being very developer friendly. If you're reading this it's thanks to Linux. However switching to Linux isn't a viable option for everyone for the aforementioned points. It surprises me to this day how many smart and tech savvy individuals still can't grasp this concept.

[-] Tekchip@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I'm going to have to call you on that whole "Windows just works"TM business. I just had to install drivers, during setup, for a regular hard drive in Windows Server 2019. Last time I tried to run the game Rust on Windows 11 it just wouldn't run and I blew hours and never could find a solution. Had to go back to Win 10 to get it to run. It's also pretty easy to pay attention to any news feed and see an endless string of Windows is now broken like X on basically a weekly basis at this point. MS Fired their entire QA team and only tests on virtual machines now. Zero surprise Windows breaks in all sorts of new and interesting ways when it finally meets the real world. Anyone who makes this statement is at best naive and at worst a bold face liar/shill. I do try to assume most people are the prior of course.

That said the rest of your statement is spot on. Right tool for the right job will never not be relevant.

[-] stratoscaster@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago

At least for me I haven't had any issues with Win11.

Linux is just too much work, even as someone who knows how to use it a decent amount. Even getting something basic to work that works out of the box with windows takes too much googling

I love Linux though and I can't wait for the day when it's a drop-in replacement for windows (if that happens). That said it's gotten a lot better over the years and is really close in some regards

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I bet you tried a bunch of years ago, and then you were correct. Today is quite different, just boot up a new Linux mint from a usb stick and check it out (no installation needed).

Linux Mint desktop background is so ugly though ☺️😭😁 so brace yourself!

[-] Cannacheques@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Linux is not more secure really, it's just assumed to be so because it's less widely attacked for having less market share

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, you have a user, it cannot mess with another user, by design.

In windows you can do so many crappy things it's incredible, like rescue boot and just change the crowd strike executables with a notepad++ exe aaand you are "free!"

The security holes ae trash too, you can't deny that. Corporate PCs are plagued with "anti virus" and other scanning softs, sending your every keystroke to some authentication server so see if no malicious intent is detected.

If you want to do something efficient, Windows is no longer the way IMO.

[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Extensive hardware support is not really true. Windows is supported by hardware manufacturers because it's popular, but Microsoft isn't the one making drivers. So Windows doesn't have extensive hardware support since after installing the OS you have to spend time installing drivers which manufacturers made otherwise it's almost unusable.

[-] Digester@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Saying that Windows has driver support means that drivers are supported by the system (because they exist and are available) regardless of the driver's provider. The entities providing the drivers are essentially what gives Windows support.

Sure you have to spend time installing drivers just like you would have to spend time installing any type of software on a machine to achieve the operating function you require. I don't think I fully understand what you're trying to say here.

[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You are using "support" instead of "capability". Having capability of installing drivers is pretty much given to any operating system. Said drivers being provided for the operating system in question is a hardware manufacturer thing. Microsoft doesn't provide support for drivers, they provide capability of installing drivers. Microsoft is not involved in development process of said drivers not do they offer technical support in resolving issues regarding them. The fact Windows is the most popular means most manufacturers will support Windows but that has nothing to do with Microsoft other than charging for that sticker they put on boxes.

If you buy nVidia card, it's nVidia that supports Windows, not that Windows supports nVidia. nVidia made the effort to develop and test software on that operating system, is providing technical support for that software, has upgrade paths, etc. Windows is just there and popular.

[-] Redditiscancer789@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

This is completely asinine, you need to read up on your history. Microsoft literally created DirectX in 95 to help developers for software and hardware develop multimedia drivers and applications for windows.

"In late 1994, Microsoft was ready to release Windows 95, its next operating system. An important factor in the value consumers would place on it was the programs that would be able to run on it. Microsoft employee Alex St. John had been in discussions with various game developers asking how likely they would be to bring their MS-DOS games to Windows 95, and found the responses mostly negative; programmers had found that the Windows environment did not provide the necessary features which were available under MS-DOS using BIOS routines or direct hardware access.[6] There were also strong fears of compatibility; a notable case of this was from Disney's Animated Storybook: The Lion King which was based on the WinG programming interface.[7] Due to numerous incompatible graphics drivers from new Compaq computers that were not tested with the WinG interface which came bundled with the game, it crashed so frequently on many desktop systems that parents had flooded Disney's call-in help lines.[8][9]

St. John recognized the resistances for game development under Windows would be a limitation, and recruited two additional engineers, Craig Eisler and Eric Engstrom, to develop a better solution to get more programmers to develop games for Windows. The project was codenamed the Manhattan Project, like the World War II project of the same name, and the idea was to displace the Japanese-developed video game consoles with personal computers running Microsoft's operating system.[8] It had initially used the radiation symbol as its logo but Microsoft asked the team to change the logo.[8] Management did not agree to the project as they were already writing off Windows as a gaming platform, but the three committed towards this project's development.[9] Their rebellious nature led Brad Silverberg, the senior vice president of Microsoft's office products, to name the trio the "Beastie Boys".[10] "

Its also completely foolish to think that the driver engineers from any specific company don't have a corporate support line to contact if they need help with something or a personal contact they could bounce ideas off of.

[-] Gorbachof@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The whole point of an OS is to streamline the process it takes to run your applications. No matter how great it is for you, Linux does not do that for everyone.

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