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[-] Samsy@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 months ago

Btw. when we get wayland forwarding over Network?

[-] potentiallynotfelix 36 points 2 months ago

waypipe exists, but it's still not perfect.

[-] Samsy@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

Never heard about this. Thx.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago

Neither was X11 so it's in good company

[-] db2@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Btw. when we get wayland ~~forwarding over Network~~?

[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

/c/foundthenvidiauser

[-] d_k_bo@feddit.org 15 points 2 months ago

Unlike X11, Wayland was never intended to be network transparent. As others say, solutions like waypipe and more tradionally RDP and VNC exist.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

Exactly. We won’t. We’ll get specialized video stream over network. I’m not happy about this regression. I understand that was a willing sacrifice to achieve better local performance, but I’m not sure it was worth it.

[-] MinFapper@startrek.website 7 points 2 months ago

Their reasoning was that X11 network transparency had been broken for quite some time. If you tried running chrome, most games, or anything with modern hardware acceleration over X11 forwarding, they wouldn't work.

So, IMHO waypipe is actually an improvement in terms of compatibility, rather than a regression.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

You always had the option to send frames over the net using VNC and such. But for many use cases, X over SSH was absolutely fantastic.

I remember using it on a very basic DSL connection to work remotely back in 2005, and it was almost like running local. You don’t get anywhere near the same performance with VNC or RDP.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

It’s more about security if I recall correctly

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

How so? Is there a way for malicious code to start injecting itself into calls to 127.0.0.1?

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sorry, I am not an expert myself, but I think there are some recourses about that in the internet

Or, this file on x.org:

“But the X protocol is still unsecure by design…”

https://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2014/XDC2014DodierPeresSecurity/xorg-talk.pdf

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, to send it naked over the wire would be nuts, which is why everybody uses SSH. But unless there’s insecurity within the computer, that’s a moot point.

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