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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Menachem@midwest.social to c/main@midwest.social

Has anyone else noticed how prevalent Hexbear posters have suddenly become? Maybe sometime last week I noticed nearly every political post had at least one long thread of Hexbear users that do nothing but repeat CCP talking points while waving anyway anything even remotely reliable as Western propaganda. That or getting all excited about trolled libs. The way they tell it, you'd think everything from DW, to Fox, to Propublica, to straight up AP News articles, are all written by the same people.

Not to mention, their info on the Fediverse observer is either straight up wrong or there's some serious botting going on. According to that, the instance is less than a month old, yet somehow they already have one of the largest, most active userbases, along with far and away the most comments of any instance.

Seems to me like Lemmygrad on steroids. Considering we defederated from them, seems like a no-brainer to block Hexbear as well.

So glad this thread could become such a perfect microcosm of why we need to defederate.

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[-] booty@hexbear.net 134 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The way they tell it, you'd think everything from DW, to Fox, to Propublica, to straight up AP News articles, are all written by the same people.

They are, it's called the capitalist class.

And your information is incorrect, hexbear is one of the oldest Lemmy instances, and we've always been among the most active. My account is over 3 years old. It's just that we only federated recently.

[-] Menachem@midwest.social -1 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, the classic wealthy journalist. Everyone knows that reporting is where the big bucks truly lie. I guess it's impossible for literally anyone living anywhere but the like 3 countries that pretend to be communist to report on anything accurately.

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 108 points 1 year ago

who pays the journalists? who sets editorial policy? who prevents the journalists from unionizing?

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

Who fires them if they disobey orders, and shuts down the whole paper just to prevent competition from the rags they outright own?

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago
[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago

Ford Foundation Carnegie Corporation

Lmao you just owned yourself with this link. I love when libs link wikipedia links they havent actually read.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Fair enough, I was wrong about ProPublica.

I'm sure you'll find this quote from the Wikipedia entry on the Ford Foundation interesting:

"John J. McCloy, the architect of Office of Strategic Services that would later become Central Intelligence Agency served as the chairman of the Ford Foundation.[74] The CIA would channel its funds through Ford Foundation as a part of its covert cultural war.[75][76][77] John J. McCloy, serving as the chairman from 1958–1965, knowingly employed numerous US intelligence agents and, based on the premise that a relationship with the CIA was inevitable, set up a three-person committee responsible for dealing with its requests.[78][79] Writer and activist Arundhati Roy connects the foundation, along with the Rockefeller Foundation, with supporting imperialist efforts by the U.S. government during the Cold War."

[-] DankXiaobong@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

This is indeed interesting. What does that tell you about the state of western media?

Former CIA Agent John Stockwell Talks about How the CIA Worked in Vietnam and Elsewhere https://youtu.be/NK1tfkESPVY

Obv the military industrial complex grew significantly since the release of this

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

What does that tell you about the state of western media?

Trying to generalize based on a single example is poor reasoning.

YouTube: I don't do YouTube, sorry, no offense to you or whatever you're trying to convey.

[-] DankXiaobong@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

Trying to generalize based on a single example is poor reasoning.

But willful ignorance leads to good reasoning, right?

Youtube

Just use ublock like the rest of us

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

But willful ignorance leads to good reasoning, right?

No, you're willfully ignorant. Great argument.

I don't use YouTube because it's full of misinformation and I don't like watching videos.

[-] DankXiaobong@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

I don't use YouTube because it's full of misinformation

How do you determine what's misinformation and what not?

and I don't like watching videos.

If you're the reading type go with inventing reality by parenti or manufacturing consent by Chomsky

Your Wikipedia "source" was challenged and you found how the CIA is involved on your own.. Do the same next time you read anything about china or other aes

[-] DankXiaobong@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

While the Sandler Foundation provided ProPublica with significant financial support, it also has received funding from the Knight Foundation, MacArthur Foundation, Pew Charitable Trusts, Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation, and the Atlantic Philanthropies.

Lol u can't be serious

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

Oh shit, a Wikipedia page.

walter-breakdown

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just want to point out how funny it is that you have zero points on this post considering none of the hexbear bRiGaDerS have the ability to downvote

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