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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts:

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It's the same as with Linux, GIMP, LibreOffice or OnlyOffice. Some people are so used to their routines that they expect everything to work the same and get easily pissed when not.

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[–] Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Meanwhile I've been messing around with Linux the past week and it got me installing decentralized apps on my android lol.

[–] iorale@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes and no, most of the free/open software has the problem of being very not-user-friendly (even if it's only for the first time set-up) and the documentation (even the youtube tutorials) are written in a "you should know all this already" way, which is cool if you do, but if this is the first time you are doing this or if it's the only time you are gonna use that knowledge then it's absurd to expected someone to learn it only for one time.

It is normal for someone to complain that the thing that steals all their data or needs a subscription is better because it's easier to use (install, pay/register and use, done), compared with how different and difficult usually it's to install and get to work a FOSS option (download this, install these, run command lines, configure all these, now get all these plugins, etc).

If we want bigger numbers, then it should be at least as easy as the thing we want them to stop using, otherwise we are barking at the wrong tree.

[–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

You are missing a point. Closed sourced solutions pay developers a lot... And they focus on the ux. Think about the most famous example, all apple OSes are just like a customized collection of open source stuff, similar to a linux distro, with a user friendly, closed sourced GUI.

Open source solutions that are not user friendly, is just because no one is paid, or there is not enough budget to pay for a high level UX design and implementation

[–] IronDonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's not contrary to what he said at all, it's just another layer of why things are the way they are.

If you want the average joes, you need good ux. If you don't have it, you won't get/keep them.

Maybe there are good reasons why you don't have decent ux. Maybe other people only do because they spend money. Maybe you can find a way around that, maybe you can't.

Doesn't matter. Good user experience means you keep users, bad user experience means you don't.

[–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The main reason is that ux design is difficult, complex but not always rewarding. Few people do it "as hobby". Companies make money out of UX design. As in the example of Apple, they could find a lot of open source good quality software, but they needed the ui to seel it in macs, iPhones and ipads.

Another example is steam deck. Its OS is just arch linux, with an incredible UI (built by valve), and it is currently more popular than windows handhelds.

Many open source solutions are of greater quality than corresponding proprietary stuff (anyone who has ever worked in a corporate environment also knows why, corporates are elephants trying to create a swiss watch). What open source solutions are missing are companies paying to create user experience.

[–] wellnowletssee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

UX in open source software is mostly fine for those who built it for them selves or people in the same environment.

As soon as stuff gets built for others with other requirements empathy declines, and I don’t mean this disrespectful. Good professional UX sources are needed, indeed to fill this gap. But will they be able to convince the open source devs who often were Initiator of the projects?

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[–] Obsydian_Falcon@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

It's not only the break in routine but also the direction of the site. All your examples are productivity products while the fediverse is, in essence, social media. The thing with social media is that branding REALLY matters. There have been attempts to copy Instagram or Snapchat or Reddit but they have all failed to gain massive communities due to not being part of a known brand.

"I posted my pics on the gram"

"What's your snap?" etc....

Kbin, Lemmy, these are just instances of something called the Fediverse, try getting a layperson to understand that.

Social media generally has a rule known as the 90:9:1 rule. 90% of people are lurkers just doomscrolling or passing time, 9% are interacting with content and leaving comments and/or posting, and the final 1% is making the engaging content that sites like Reddit and YouTube are known for.

Right now, FOSS software is often populated by only 10% of that ratio, the power-users and people that interact every so often. Those lurkers, the 90%, migrating them will be hard if not impossible. Remember, they lurk, they will stay where the most engaging content is, and that is still currently Reddit.

[–] oldLady80@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've been here since the blackout and everything is great, apart from a few times when the site seemed a bit slow. I don't even miss reddit anymore.

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[–] SomeOtherUsername@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I'm using the browser from my laptop (phone screens are too small when the laptop's there) and lemmy is surprisingly good in all aspects. The only UI issue noticeable to me is that it doesn't remember my previous position in the feed when I press back, but that's also the case in many large platforms, lol.

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[–] vtez44@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think that for Lemmy and Linux the problem is actually in the people using it. Without people using it, they won't be many posts/good software support. Without the posts/support there won't be many users. It's not some UI being different, or anything else. It's the main issue. When you see lemmy.world frontpage (All, not Local), there are 15 threads about Reddit and Lemmy, 2 about Twitter limits and the rest is about tech. Meanwhile, on r/popular you have variety of communities, still mostly memes and videos but there are also other posts.

It's more about reddit that reddit is. You can't make it long-term with this type of content. On other instances it's more bearable, but it's still not enough to keep people here.

[–] lozunn@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Clearly you have never used Arch Linux then - Arch Wiki is truly marvelous.

Likely the problem is more with people not willing to learn anything new, unless forced to do so, because that will break their routines and many are aversive of that.

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