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submitted 1 year ago by SeaJ@lemm.ee to c/technology@lemmy.world

TL;DR

  • ASUS has apparently withdrawn the ability to unlock the bootloader on its phones.
  • As per the company’s technical support team, Zenfone 10 and Zenfone 9 users
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[-] transistor 5 points 1 year ago

This is sad to see. Replying from Lineage OS on Asus.

[-] bappity@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

welp, no chance I'm ever considering their phones in future

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's funny that looking around almost every single piece of ASUS hardward I bought over the years, I chose them because I could do more with their kit than I could do with the cheaper stuff and a lot of that had to do with access to the hardware (overclockeability of things like motherboards and graphics boards, much more configurable and better hardware for routers and media players and so on).

So I'm wandering what exactly is their unique value proposition on smartphones versus brands which are much more well known and well established in the regular consumer segment if they're ditching being the superior choice for the more technical users: what exactly is the point of "same shit as everybody else" hardware for premium prices?!

[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Didn't even know they were great for it, but my motherboard has been a sexy beast for for iommu grouping

[-] KitsuneHaiku@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago

Are they going to increase their abysmal security update support time?

[-] unskilledlabor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If I ever come across anyone in the wild who actually has one I'll be sure to warn them not to root their phone.

[-] Chickerino@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

asus has killed the possibility of me being a potential customer then lol

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Which means, legally, you can no longer own even the hardware of a Zenfone you bought, you now only license it. Since their OEM software is proprietary and in nearly every software's TOS they can revoke your license to it at any time for any reason, which would effectively brick the phone if bootloader unlocking is not possible.

[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Very easy way to remove an almost perfect phone from my list of upgrade considerations.

[-] dsmk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Some here are mixing bootloader unlocking with rooting. They're not the same thing.

Asus broke bootloader unlocking, so you can only use the original ROM in the original state. You can't install a custom ROM or flash something like Magisk to root your device.

You can unlock without rooting or without installing a custom ROM. You can install a custom ROM without rooting. You can use stock and root. And you can use a custom ROM and root. But all this is only possible if you can unlock the device's bootloader.

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also, something I don't see people discuss enough: for security, you also need to be able to re-lock the bootloader after installing a custom ROM. Otherwise anyone can inject code into the system partition if they have physical access to your device, which would also compromise your encrypted storage. So if there's no way to reverse the bootloader unlocking, that's also bad.

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