Vote to keep away the worst, organize to bring forward the best.
this post was submitted on 02 May 2026
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The voted organized brownshirts, and sent everyone to the deathcamps, again, again, again, and again.
How you folks don't see it, perplexes my historian brain.
Voting isn't a good in and of itself unless it is for policy (ie in a referendum). Republican representational voting is really just the first step inthe elite's journey to unite in order to dominate the masses and is EXTREMELY capable of supporting fascim.
voting is a tool within the greater antifash idea. anyone trying to convince you not to is a fascist.
Voting is lib bullshit that perpetuates the capitalist system. Anyone selling you voting as a solution is a right winger who wants billions to die.
The only solution is revolution.
Did you even fucking read what they said?
It's a tool within a greater idea, not the solution.
Voting is a tool that works as well as the system it's used in is working. When things are going well, voting is incredibly useful, when things are going poorly, all it can do is nudge things a tiny bit, rarely to any avail. Still, if someone's got me tied up, you bet I'm struggling against those ropes, even if the movement isn't much. I'm not just struggling, though - I'm also yelling and biting. Do everything you can to fight back, regardless of the utility.
Can't you vote and do a revolution, whenever that's going to happen
Not as long as voters keep thinking voting is the solution.
It's not one or the other, you can still vote to try and minimize damage while working towards or dreaming about revolution.
minimize damage
Good sir, WHAT DAMAGE‽
Some candidates are worse than others. You'd preferably would want the less shit one to win
If a political system yields worse candidates, why then should one support a system that still causes damage‽ Why are you blaming a voter for being responsible for harm reduction, when the system still creates damage?
Your post is absolutely poetic: Explain how one can vote one’s self out from the end of brownshirts’ firing squads?
what's poetic about a scenario less than 1% of voters are actually facing?
If you can't get your ass to a voting booth every couple of years, you're the problem.
Problem with this is Libs love to control who people vote for. You can't just vote for your preferred candidate in primaries, you have to vote for the person that can win and everyone has already decided will win otherwise you're splitting the vote. You have to vote for the chosen D reps in the general otherwise you wasted your time and shouldn't have gone anyways.
I vote every chance I get, but I just view it as something to keep me out of the house cause in deep red Missouri, my votes aren't gonna do a damn thing.
Whether you think voting is any kind of solution or not, people who don't go to the voting booth are definitely not "the problem" -- saying that things are bad because of people who don't vote in a game of shitty choices is a real misunderstanding of the problem
They are the problem, because right wing sheep are being whipped into a frenzy and driven into the voting booth every election. If you can't even be bothered to vote against fascists, how am I supposed to take you seriously?
If you employ language where you lament people voting and even call them sheep when they don't adhere to politics you condone worthy, you're more cynical about elections than OP.
Why do you complain about people refraining from attending elections if these people made up their minds that it's inconsequential. That's hating on the players, not the game.
Theres no game being played if half the players are abstaining.
You are not voting against Fascists by voting for Democrats. You are voting for delaying hard fascism in favor of a more subtle fascism and setting up a harder fascism for the next Republican administration. That is how it's worked this whole time, that is the progression of electoral lesser evil politics in this country.
Reiterated, you don't understand the systemic problem if you blame virtually powerless voters in this fraudulent "democracy." If you don't agree with this, I personally don't give a shit if you take me "seriously."
And you can blame me and other voters/non-voters all you want, but that won't fix a thing, and not only that, it is pointing a finger at the non-powerful instead of the powerful, the individual instead of the system itself, and in this way you are perpetuating "the problem" more than nonvoters, or people who vote their conscience (like I did for Cornell West, the best option in the recent presidential election). Hey, why didn't you and everyone else vote for the real lesser evil? The better option than Harris? By your logic, I blame all of you for not having a better Administration and better things. "We didn't vote for the better candidates because they had no chance." Yeah, because you didn't vote for them. After all it is everyone's choice that they could have made. But see how dumb it is for me to blame you for all the problems today?
Oh and maybe you should consider blaming the Democrats for being absolute ass and totally captured by corporate interests, and nobody really wanting to vote for them because they suck total ass and are not a serious opposition and have mostly been in league with the Republicans. Why aren't you blaming the actual powerful?
Vote in primaries. Don't just wait until the only choices left suck and then complain.
I do vote in the primaries and it still doesn't amount to much, especially considering the most well funded (corporate and welathy backed candidate) almost always win because it's a name recognition game, and money buys that message into people's brains for when they get to the booth.
And guess what, Harris didn't even have a primary, she was appointed.
Then there is virtually no method (thru established channels) of public accountability once a politician gets into office. That is why in reality almost all of them succumb to money interests, for the few who didn't already before getting elected.
You place way too much faith in the process of capitalist "liberal democracy" which is the shallowest shell of democracy. The architects of the political system are the rich and powerful themselves. It is an elaborate maze designed to keep the ones in power in power. You blame and direct your ire at the wrong people.
If you think going to a voting booth every few years will fix anything, you are the problem.
Voting is the first, the easiest step to shaping politics. If you can't even do that, I don't trust you to do anything effective.
If it's so easy, then what makes you think people who argue "voting doesn't matter" aren't also doing that (we are)? We just don't care to let electoralists suck all the energy out of people who are willing to take action trying to get some loser elected who's just gonna betray us all for half a buck anyway.
If voting would change anything, they would've made it illegal.
Voting does not solve shit. It is not a solution, it is a placebo. Real reform can only come from revolution, the system cannot change itself.
I suppose you never take painkillers alongside antibiotics? Since only the second one can stop the illness
Do you ever see people promoting painkillers as a standalone solution? Because that’s 99% of voters entrenched into their tribe bullshit.
Could you two stop talking to the straw man you've built of the other side and actually engage with each other?
Engage with what? Electorialism is not a solution, there is no point engaging in it.
Especially when the people who preach “you can vote and revolt” never push the revolt narrative, it’s only that voting that concerns them.
Engage with the person, not the mental image of what you think they are or represent.
To me it looked very much like you were talking past each other.
You don't have to explain your stance to me, I understand it well enough.