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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

TL;DR: The bill does not ban anyone under 18 from chatting online. It requires age verification and then requires that children not be allowed to be viewed, DM'd, tagged or sent money by anyone not connected to them (on their friend's list). It requires the site to allow parents to opt out of this feature.


This article was posted 3 hours ago and it doesn't seem like any of the commenters here have read past the headline. Everyone is reacting to the headline and the headline is flat out wrong.

This bill does not ban anyone under 18 from chatting online.

It does require age verification, however:

§ 1510. Privacy by default. 1. No operator shall offer a covered platform in this state without conducting commercially reasonable age verification to determine whether a user is a covered minor. The attorney general shall promulgate regulations identifying methods for commercially reasonable and technically feasible age verification

If a person is determined to be a minor then:

operator shall utilize the following settings by default for covered minors, which shall ensure that no user who is not already connected to a covered minor may:

(a.)communicate directly and privately with such minor;

(b.) view the profile of such minor;

(c.) tag such minor in posted content; and/or

(d.) engage in a financial transaction with such minor.

3.) A parent of a covered minor may override the default privacy settings provided in subdivision two of this section at such parent's discretion.

4.) An operator shall notify a parent of a covered minor whenever such covered minor attempts to change the default settings provided in subdivision two of this section. The parent may then either approve or deny the request to change the settings for such minor.

The bill makes it so that strangers can't DM children, tag them in photographs, or send them money. It allows parents to choose to opt out of this feature and it requires that sites not use Dark Patterns to interfere with the opt-out process.

It does not, in any way, prevent children under 18 from chatting online. It prevents people from DMing children and sending them money.

Violations allow the AG can sue the company for damages and a $5,000 fine per occurrence.

[–] neblem@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Age verification = mandatory surveillance, which will fail to keep kids from accessing whatever the verification method is intended to block.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

Except for the mandatory age verification it doesn't seem bad at all. "Except for" is doing a heavy lift there however.

[–] quantumcrop@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So adults don't have to verify their age right? Cuz it's only for kids, right?

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hid the answer to your question in the text of the comment that you replied to.

[–] Tiefkuehlkost@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Im pretty shure that was a sarcastic rethorical question through and we all now the answer...

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

Ah. Well, we shouldn't look for details about the story in the comments, or by reading the headline.

Often, as is the case here, the headline is misleading or completely wrong.

This is a sarcastic rhetorical response but, like, in a chill vibes kinda way.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

> Will

OP, it's in committee with four co-sponsors out of 63 senators. Also in committee in the Assembly with five co-cosponsors out of 150 assemblypeople. Cool it with the "will".

Agreed, "would...if passed" is definitely better here.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

But it has to cause fear so that people will click on it!

[–] StrawberryPigtails@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

New York plans on enforcing that, how exactly?

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 5 points 1 day ago

The rise of id scanning technology is not a coincidence.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

You have to read past the headline to find out the answer:

https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2025/S4609

[Removed unnecessary legalistic verbiage for readability]

[...]the attorney general may bring an action to obtain restitution, disgorgement of any profits, damages caused directly or indirectly, civil penalties of up to five thousand dollars per violation, and any such other and further relief as the court may deem proper, including preliminary relief.

[–] Redvenom@retrolemmy.com 15 points 1 day ago

I'll agree to that if no one over 60 could be in politics

Good luck enforcing that.

[–] Darthcapi@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

Protecting exactly no one

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Invasion of our privacy by claiming to protect the children

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

18 seems like a crazy high age for this

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

So children can't text with their parents?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Please insert identity verification probe to log in.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Do not let the D next to the name fool you, New York is the beating heart of the capitalistic hellscape, they are the worst amongst us you better believe it.

[–] iamericandre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

So discord will be banned in NY