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[–] RiderExMachina@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago
[–] jdr@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I so wish Gentoo/BSD was a thing once again.

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

even debian dropped the attempt at using FreeBSD's kernel, it is just too alien to Linux, Hurd in the other hand pretty much tries as best as it can to be compatible with Linux while keeping it blob free

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Too alien to Linux, or too alien to SystemD?

I can't be the only one who remembers those switches happening Very rapidly one after another for Debian.

[–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I can't speak for the Debian case since I didn't knew about it much but afaik on the Gentoo side it was because its hard dependency on Bashisms (and Bash as a whole) so it needed many hacks and stuff to get around of those and make it work on the BSDs.

That it didn't work because "it is just too alien to Linux" isn't quite true because it did work, it's just that it needed too much work to keep it going with Portage as it was (and is).

At that time systemd didn't even exist so no, it wasn't because of systemd.

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

couldn't it just use gnu userland?

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Wasn't ~~Debian~~ Devuan a Debian without systemd?

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If you want, you could always start it up yourself, put the kernel and any odd deps in a portage overlay, and see what happens. I for one welcome the project and would enthusiastically support its return.

Though I recommend switching to the hardenedBSD kernel instead. It would just feel... Right seeing that come home.

In theory, it should be fine with a non-systemd init. OpenRC is tradition in Gentoo after all, and OpenRC is from BSD.

[–] basiliscos2@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Did somebody actually tried it? On real hardware? How it is?