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Around 10 years ago, Internet historians discovered that the little-appreciated trebuchet (depicted bottom right) could launch a 90kg projectile in excess of 300m. Prior to this discovery much of the Internet's medieval siege engine enthusiast community had presumed such a feat impossible due to its preoccupation with the catapult (a popular medieval siege engine [depicted top right]). This sensational discovery launched the previously poorly-regarded siege engine into the limelight of popular internet culture, much as a trebuchet might launch a 90kg payload into a fortification at a distance of ~300m.

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[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 months ago

2016 is like 2 years ago, max, stop spreading lies!

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 15 points 5 months ago

What?

Before "the Internet historians" there was very clear and obvious evidence to the superiority of the trebuchet over the onager, mainly because the former completely supplanted the latter by the 6th century AD.

The onager (or catapult as you're referring to it here) was invented in the 4th century.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What's an "Internet Historian"?

[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm just making stuff up, but your comment made me look it up and of course it's also the name of a controversial youtuber who blew up, coincidentally, around the same time the trebuchet did. Learning all kinds of internet history today.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The guy is sadly a piece of shit who steals from others.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 4 months ago

I will look it through, thanks!

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ah, ok.
The plural ("internet historians") made it sound more than it apparently is.

So basically just another influencer guy exaggerating stuff that has been known for ages.
The experimental archeologists at my local castle had been hurtling watermelons hundreds of meters 30 years ago already, and this despite the fact that they are only using a 1:2 scale model. Nothing really new.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 7 points 5 months ago

👴 What is an Internet Historian? A YouTuber. A storyteller. A man who documents the world’s dumbest online disasters with the seriousness of a BBC wildlife documentary.

Not a wine connoisseur. Not the secret leader of the free world. (We tried that angle. Focus groups said it was “a bit much.”)

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I’ve learned my history from Age of Empires 2, and I can confirm trebuchet is king.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 4 months ago

We used to travel a lot through Europe in my young days and I saw a lot of castle ruins and have seen first hand what kind of devastation they could bring to medieval castle walls.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 4 months ago

People fight with catapults. Aristocrats fight with trebuchets.