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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/25779751

The intative promises to be privacy-friendly with no tracking. Stating:

Your privacy is important. The WiFi4EU app ensures a private online experience with no tracking or data collection. Simply connect and enjoy free public Wi-Fi without concerns.

Source: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/wifi4eu-citizens

Will be interesting to see how this spans and plays out in reality. Looks promising too, did a quick scan of their builtin permissions and trackers and looks good too. (Scanning tool is called Exodus)

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[–] hisao@ani.social 111 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

It's mind-blowing how at the same time some EU government guys pushing stuff like DSA while other do something like this (which is nice, and a complete opposite, if it's not honeypot anyways).

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Indeed from their history of constantly wanting more control and invasive measures, always sold in the name of security, protection of minors, etc.. I'm highly sceptical and always asume the worst.

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[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 97 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's cool. Here in the US, we're this close to banning vaccines. *sad trombone sound

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Having a union-wide regulatory framework for soda bottle caps, or mandatory categorization of cucumbers seems a lot less like a government overreach in comparison. Thanks, I guess... 🥲

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[–] giacomo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

oh dude, they promised to be privacy friendly! maybe I'm just too american to believe in promises.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 week ago (27 children)

You don't have to trust them any more than you trust your local Starbucks WiFi. We're at the point where your traffic should no longer be vulnerable just because you're on the wrong WiFi network.

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Been that way since https became common

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[–] berty@feddit.org 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Do you need that app to connect to a WiFi network?

[–] sivanataraja@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago

No, the app is just a map of the hotspots.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 12 points 1 week ago

To add to the other comment, you can see the map here.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Well I don't know if that's a good use of EU money. I'd rather see investments in large and difficult infrastructure, rail, software, datacenters, industrial sectors we're currently lacking, grid investments - stuff like that.

End user internet access is more like thousands of small decentralised projects. The coordination might make it easier to use compared to if everyone did their own free wifi project, but that's such a small benefit...

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[–] Epzillon@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

If this does what it says on the box its huge

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think this is mostly for non-EU tourists. You don't pay for roaming in EU anymore so you don't really need WiFi when traveling.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (5 children)

If I had this in the US, I'd be cancelling my cellular service entirely, I'd still keep my home service though, to VPN into it for a bit more security when using a public wifi connection.

I would also just transfer my phone number to one of those cheap voip providers, then just use voip from my phone everywhere.

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[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Honestly nowadays data plans are cheap on most mobile carriers and they're obligated to have them work accross EU, so you no longer really need Wi-Fi when traveling.

Also, I can see this being easily and constantly exploited via Wi-Fi attacks where hackers set up fake Hotspots with the same name as the closest legit one.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Meanwhile Czech carrier cartel:

J. Jonah Jameson laugh meme

BTW free Wi-Fi exploits are overrated with widespread HSTS

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Only the rich can afford to pay per GB

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[–] HejMedDig@feddit.dk 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm sure non-EU visitors will like it

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[–] Hule@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Free Wireless ISP, you say?

cheapskate romanian sounds

[–] TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip -1 points 6 days ago

Oh, sure. That's fair. Just like how the US kicked the Natives off of their land.

[–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

Germans are gonna start getting out their old cantennas or nanostations and point it at the closest hotspot

Of course I would never do such a thing, being half german, living in Germany. Certainly didn't live off a nearby restaurants wifi hotspot for almost 2 years.

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 15 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Damn, this is so cool.
We could have had this in the States too, but, well, you all know.

[–] miked@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This will never be possible in the States. We still have areas with no cellular.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 13 points 1 week ago

Surely that's unrelated to the billions of dollars that the telecom companies stole from the taxpayer after promising to build out infrastructure?

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[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

More Europeans than ever can watch the live-streamed genocide that we've been arming and encouraging!

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Through various deliberately InterPol-managed servers that track your telemetry.

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks to EU roaming rules...

Not quite. I've come across a few plans that don't offer EU roaming, and also those where there's far less data offered than the regulation requires, or found a loophole.

Let's go for the examples of no EU roaming data:
T-Mobile CZ Twist IoT CR - IoT card, but it offers up to 500GB of data paid once a year (78 EUR), only usable in Czech Republic.
T-Mobile CZ 100GB edition - regular SIM, but also CR-only
Vodafone CZ GIGA 100 + 50 GB - also a regular prepaid, but no roaming
Swan Mobile (4ka) Sloboda Data - 300GB in Slovakia, but 0.144 EUR per MB in EU.

For the last example, they're also the same example that breaches the regulation with other packages. When I did the calculations, they exactly checked out for other 3 MNOs, so I guess I did them right, but they didn't for Swan.
Further confirming this is the fact that they have already received at least 2 (as far as I could find) fines for breaching these RLAH regulations, that is 15,000 and 90,000 EUR, but I suppose that just ends up being cheaper for them, as it still isn't fixed.

Anyway, perhaps they did in fact fix this, with a loophole.
For example, take Sloboda Nekonecno+ for 25EUR/month with "unlimited" (300GB) data. 8.25GB of EU roaming does not look right there.
So what is going on?
On paper, it's split up into base and additional package. Base package is 20EUR, and only has 2GB of data. Additional package with unlimited data is 5EUR/month, and as you could guess, cannot be purchased separately.

So, for base package, you get full allowance, thus 2GB. Additional package is calculated separately, (4.06504065041 / 1.30) * 2 is 6.25. And thus 8.25GB instead of 31.27GB was born.

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