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[–] vala@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago
[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Eh, if you are still on a Gservices Version of Android you are lost anyway

So I just urge y'all to step back and watch at this clownshow.

[–] p_kanarinac@retrolemmy.com 141 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] elvith@feddit.org 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Depends. Are you from the EU or not?

[–] p_kanarinac@retrolemmy.com 92 points 1 week ago

I am, that's why it sounds illegal. :D

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 90 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Purism is sketchy btw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKegmu0V75s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IjUryQOlgk

(Louis Rossman videos explaining how a customer was denied a refund for a "pre-order" and then they tried to coerce Louis to take down the video.)

Edit: typo

[–] hummingbird@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

As a person who experienced the customer support regrading preorders I can confirm this firm is extremly sketchy.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 64 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yikes this really doesn't look good. Is there any reporting on it from independent journalists (or anyone else who isn't also advertising their own competing operating system)?

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not that I've seen and I'd take what Purism say with a grain of salt: they've acted like pretty shitty gatekeepers themselves. Nothing they mentioned in the article seems too egregious in truth and they're exaggerating the scale of it: Play Store app DRM exists already, and the restrictions on browser-downloaded apps they mention can be bypassed (albeit by having to go into settings) and don't apply to apps installed through other apps stores (F-Droid, etc).

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 12 points 1 week ago

Nothing they mentioned in the article seems too egregious in truth

Doesn't it? To be honest, if the article is telling the truth and not exaggerated, I find this pretty egregious. How you installed an app should be irrelevant, so the idea of an API to say "did this come from the Play Store" is fucking shit. And the ability to block installation of apps that call certain APIs entirely is even worse.

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[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

effectively pushing users to install apps only through the Google Play Store

I wonder what this will mean for Aurora and Fdroid etc.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Well, both will be unable to install certain types of apps.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

That doesnt appear to be true, the restriction seems to be on apps being installed from file managers, web browsers, messaging, etc.

F-droid and the like are not part of that list.

This still isn't good, but it doesnt stop you from having F-droid manage your messaging apps it would seem.

Edit: If you're down voting because you think its using the same method as a file manager as the user that replied to me, this is incorrect. This is also an issue going back several versions.

F-Droid uses a session installer method for 3rd party app stores, it does not use the same method as a file manager.

For an article about a similar issue brought up by similar restrictions in previous updates, you can refer to this article:

https://www.androidauthority.com/android-15-restricted-settings-sideloading-3481098/

You can also refer to this thread in the F-Droid forums which covers this as well, from 2 1/2 years ago:

https://forum.f-droid.org/t/sideloading-restrictions-or-removal-in-future-how-it-effects-fdroid/21089/10

Which also includes a merged discussion from the last time this came up 9 months ago.

F-Droid has been using the session installer method for quite some time.

[–] revanite@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For what it's worth I use aurora store and have already noticed some apps refusing to open/work unless I reinstall them from the play store.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How did you install aurora store?

I'm curious because ive seen no issues with F-Droid (just had a few updates actually), and the F-Droid team have commented on this sort of approach before, including the method being used for installation.

I don't use aurora, so I'm not overly familiar.

[–] revanite@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Apk from their gitlab page

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wonder if it is because you added that way, rather than from f-Droid or something.

No idea. If I had a spare still running android (trying out postmarketos on a few devices) I'd like to give it a try. Maybe I'll spin up a VM.

What apps?

[–] revanite@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

I don't think so, I actually updated it via f-droid before but resorted to sideloading the apk myself for faster updates.

I've noticed it so far for my apps: Tilla (subscription manager), ChatGPT, Poe

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

F-Droid uses the same way to install packages as the file manager does.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

F-Droid uses Session Installer, which is an "app store" method.

This is not a new issue:

https://www.androidauthority.com/android-15-restricted-settings-sideloading-3481098/

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