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Google executives acknowledged this month they need to do a better job surfacing user-generated content after the recent Reddit blackouts.

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[–] static@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It would be cheaper for google to just buy reddit, remove the adds and open the api's again.

Having relevent search results is priceless.

[–] IceCapp@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Reddit.com appears on KilledByGoogle.com next year.

[–] Grumlin@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Knowing google they would buy it, release a big roadmap of plans for the website and then shut it down the next day.

[–] iamsgod@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

remove the adds

lol, this is google we're talking about

[–] qimdbxfk6@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Google search is a pain from a year ago.

When searching for something on Google, you should include terms like “Reddit”, “superuser”, “Stack Overflow”, etc., to get better results. Because if you don't include them, the first page of Google looks like a bot-generated page. Of course, Google are ‘not quite happy’.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My biggest concern with the downfall or even small proportional depopulation of Reddit is 100% going to be /r/sysadmin and /r/msp not being the best place to determine if there is an actual outage in progress for various cloud based IT services. I mean, it's a real, legit concern to worry over if you're in IT.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Lemmy has one comm for Dev/Ops I think but not the convenience of having a place for network guys, sysadmins, and programmers all in different spots.

[–] meiti@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Say the execs of the company who has ruined the internet with seo crap.

[–] Dezzillion@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Big suprise! I'm this close to Uninstaller reddit.

[–] Verqix@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Current way to search on google for me is: Add reddit to search string, and set data to before may 1st 2023 Copy link suggested by google and change reddit to reveddit or any of the alternatives there

Results will go out of date but maybe this will tide me over until a good lemmy search is up and running.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They need to do a better job surfacing ANY KIND OF user-generated content. Seems like this is failing due to Reddit being a fairly old site, thus being bumped up the search results. Lemmy, kbin, etc communities are on newly created domains, giving them minus points on Google's retarded result ranking system. This system is now effectively hiding the internet from us by holding out good content that doesn't satisfy it's ranking algorithm. This system crumbles in the face of new changes because they are treating the internet like a town square rather than an organic community-driven living machine.

[–] electriccars@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I literally couldn't find Lemmy.world on Google by searching Lemmy.world, it was wild to see that.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Try finding an OLD article about something that just hit the news. Impossible. And it amazes me that Quora and Pinterest (garbage questions in, garbage answers out) to be always at the top, shining.

Also, search symbols like using double quotes for exact matches or a minus sign to remove a keyword from the match... They don't fucking work anymore.

[–] amonkeyfullofbarrels@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's pretty incredible how often I put “Reddit” in a Google search. It really is the quickest way to get a good answer to most questions, from how to fix an Excel error to which robot vacuum is most reliable.

[–] figaro@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I still remember the vacuum dude. There was a legendary post probably a decade ago made by the world's most knowledgeable vacuum salesman. He laid out all the secrets of the industry, and went into detail I didn't know I needed regarding how they all work.

To this day I remember his advice: get a bagged vacuum if you want a clean carpet.

[–] Risk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Not a vacuum salesman but repair man. Still active on reddit, but that's the last AMA he did.

I doubt vacuums have changed that much in 4 years.

[–] ward2k@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Honestly Google Search in general seems to get worse every year, for work any kind of niche issue involving errors returns no results on Google (literally no results), tried plugging the same search into Bing and the first 5 results were actual answers on solving the error

It amazes me how a search engine once considered a massive joke is able to outperform Google

[–] ahbi_santini@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

What is even more surprising is the Bing ChatGPT diagnosed the PC problem I was having when I never would have guessed the correct search terms for it.

It even gives me citations. So, I can go to those websites and read the whole answers

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[–] pureness@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Super interesting the trick we all thought was a secret, stopped working, and now executives from one of the worlds biggest companies are having trouble as a result lol

[–] thegenesis@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I've started using DDG as defacto since the last 3 months. Use Google search only for sports updates because they've good widgets for those.

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[–] Penryn_@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Google search has been pretty weak for awhile now. I/O spoke a lot of big talk about bring generative AI into search, but from my part of the world it still seems the same.

[–] pete@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ai isn't going to fix the first page being all ads, that's a business decision.

If they wanted to return actual content they could do that without AI.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

that's not even close to the issue, though – Google Search fell because of SEO pushing irrelevant auto-generated garbage towards the top.

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I think it's both - the SEO fight as well as the explosion of ads on Page 1. Throw in a dash of average-user search optimization (vs a flatter term-based search) and you've got Googles downfall in a nutshell.

[–] TrickyCamel@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Whats bothering me the most about it is that Reddit is still a valuable source of information for so many things, can't get around a boss fight in a certain older videogame? Yep, there are about 10 threads about it on reddit from years ago.

The amount information on there is big enough that often times many of the top useful search results are in reddit, I hope Lemmy can fill the gap, at least partially but I'm aware that it could years and that's only if the fediverse picks up well enough.

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