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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The weird thing is it's kind of more bizarre than a dystopian society. In dystopia, you know resources are scarce and that you have to defend yourself with violence. But in this actual dystopia, I can still get up and go play disc golf, pretty much without incident. There could come a day when I'm pulled over by some Nazi cop who decides to make an example of me, which face it, has been the case for some time now, but until then for little things like that, it's pretty much business as usual despite the plummet into fascism. Very weird.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

Scarcity is artificial with our level of technology and our ingenuity.

It's a myth, we are able to produce more than enough even with many countless individuals in dire straits maintaining the world's economy/production. We produce so much that we can afford to waste incredible amounts of food and other goods without batting an eye.

What if the individuals slaving were given the ingredients to be happy and healthy, with their human rights and needs respected?

Personally, I believe the world would get even more productive, things would start making sense, people wouldn't have to work so hard, we'd see forward movement in our societies, and without a doubt we'd see incredible advancements.

I refuse to believe that everybody would laze about, leave the "hard" jobs unattended, and let the world rot.

If we can work this hard while we are forced to survive, forced to live in lack while the landfills pile up to the sky — there's no way we wouldn't be incredibly more efficient if people could take a second to breathe and fill their cup. If everybody could take a second and look around and see where things could be even better, where they can make a difference, everything would surely very quickly improve.

There's no way to convince me that "peak productivity" is everybody emptying their cup and breaking the glass to pay debts and to afford necessities.

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[–] BranBucket@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This weekend I built a shed in my back yard, which was a nice bit of father-son bonding, and stockpiled ammo in case civil unrest causes widespread violence to break out in our neighborhood.

Definitely a strange vibe.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 23 hours ago

plant food trees and gardens…

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Even when things aren't all fascist, we're still disposable wage slaves for the elite. And somehow that's what we're supposed to be working to maintain.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I think we have to start respecting ourselves, respecting others, and teaching those concepts to people who are receptive. To me, it seems like the only way to break the cycle called slavery.

They can dress slavery up with benefits all they want, but they don't even care to anymore. Everybody knows it's a raw deal and they are trying to scare us into thinking we have no power.

Let's not be stuck in fear and hate, in subservience and denigration, and be sovereign and resolute in the change we want to see in the world.

I don't need an external authority to tell me what I should believe and hope for. I don't need somebody to curb my expectations and tell me change is impossible, that we actually need to compromise for no real reason, that it is too "costly", or that it will take an extremely long time. I don't want to be told ANY of that when change is possible — these people simply gave up before they even started. No more am I going to be gaslit, and I hope others feel similarly.

If you can't imagine a world where comprehensive solutions manifest imminently to ease suffering, you probably aren't fit for leadership. We need change now, this is absolute insanity. FUCK the perceived costs — it's infinitely more costly to continue the current state of affairs while many, many countless individuals suffer and our precious and irreplaceable planet goes up in flames.

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[–] ulterno@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago

Isn't "everyone acting like it's normal" a dystopian nightmare trope?

[–] Saryn@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean, let's be real.

It's gonna get a whole lot worse.

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope you're wrong. I really, really hope.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey, at least you (still) have hope!

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Hope is something that we all can have, we just have to nurture it and ground it into reality. If you can't nurture it, you're not broken or lesser.

Personally, the fediverse has given me a lot of hope.

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Yeah. Especially living in a society actively sliding towards some of the worst features described in some of the fictional worlds I enjoyed in novels coupled with a police state. It was never perfect, ever, but the amplification of the awful parts is really depressing.

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I see the housing bubbles all over the world and am glad I wasn't born 10 years later. I'm also screwed for not being born 10 years earlier.

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

If those bubbles pop as they're graduating college, they might get to have homes.

Also there's a few countries that don't have housing bubbles, in Japan, 600/mo can get you a 700 sqft 2bd in a city of 10 million, in China 300 can get you that. Both these countries had bubbles that deflated.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

There is no use in getting overwhelmed. I am merely getting more practiced in drinking larger and larger amounts of whiskey and smoking larger and larger amounts of cannabis to deal with it.

We all have a process

And hopefully, at least most of us will survive.

If not, for all of you fascists: I have a plan to destroy all of you that involves an enormous amount of pee. Like, so much, you can’t fucking imagine. An absolute cavalcade of pee.

Don’t try me

#PeeStrong

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The rest of us, in the civilised world, watch on from behind our fingers in horror and bewilderment

America is a classic case of the elephant chained to a small stake as a baby

The learnt helplessness of the population is nuts

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Bold of you to assume this post is limited to American neo-fascism. It absolutely resonated with me here in Germany. This "civilized world" you speak of - is it here in the room with us right now?

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Chained to a small stake, yes. But there's also the greater threat of being shot and told it was your fault if the stake comes out.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

All day everyday

[–] KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hate the state of things, but what drives me crazy is pushing it in people's faces and still watching them go back to school and work and talk about whatever typical bullshit they're thinking about.

[–] Merva@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago

That is pretty much how the mechanics of human consciousness works. We also know we are going to die some day, and that it is most likely not going to be very pleasant leading up to it. But we still manage to block out that knowledge of finality in our daily life.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay, sure, the Faro plague has consumed all of Eurasia, but have you considered seeing a therapist?

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Fuck Ted Faro

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well people aren't having kids anymore so I guess we're doing what we can

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every child that isn't born is a life saved.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago

Do you ever statement framed as a question?

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)
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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The real question is what can we do about it

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Society has a lot of inertia.

[–] Novamdomum@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When the weight of the world feels overwhelming, remember this: Everything humans have ever done, every building, road, machine, and moment, makes up only a tiny fraction of this planet’s mass. We are small creatures, clinging to the surface of a vast, ancient, quietly turning sphere. The Earth itself is not in crisis. It simply is. Steady, silent, and endlessly patient. If human noise becomes too much, just place your hand on the ground. Feel the stillness. Let it remind you that you are connected to something far older, far larger, and far more enduring than any headline or heartbreak. The Earth will hold you.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But what about the animals that are going to die?

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