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Per one tech forum this week: “Google has quietly installed an app on all Android devices called ‘Android System SafetyCore’. It claims to be a ‘security’ application, but whilst running in the background, it collects call logs, contacts, location, your microphone, and much more making this application ‘spyware’ and a HUGE privacy concern. It is strongly advised to uninstall this program if you can. To do this, navigate to 'Settings’ > 'Apps’, then delete the application.”

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[–] DuskyRo@lemmy.world 212 points 2 days ago (20 children)

SafetyCore Placeholder so if it ever tries to reinstall itself it will fail due to signature mismatch.

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[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Great, it'll have to plow through ~30GB of 1080p recordings of darkness and my upstairs neighbors living it up in the AMs. And nothing else.

[–] variouslegumes@reddthat.com 27 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I switched over to GrapheneOS a couple months ago and couldn't be happier. If you have a Pixel the switch is really easy. The biggest obstacle was exporting my contacts from my google account.

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[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

Fuck these cunt

[–] TK420@lemmy.world 109 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Gimme Linux phone, I’m ready for it.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

The Firefox Phone should've been a real contender. I just want a browser in my pocket that takes good pictures and plays podcasts.

[–] StefanT@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Unfortunately Mozilla is going the enshittification route more and more. Or good in this case that the Firefox Phone did not take of.

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[–] DegenerateSupreme@lemmy.zip 1 points 22 hours ago

I just gave up and pre-ordered the Light Phone 3. Anytime I truly need a mobile app, I can just use an old iPhone and a WiFi connection.

[–] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 37 points 1 day ago (12 children)

if there was something that could run android apps virtualized, I'd switch in a heartbeat

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[–] mp04610@lemm.ee 79 points 1 day ago (9 children)
[–] DuskyRo@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

broken english too, probably from a paid indian reviewer.

[–] hector@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thanks for the link, this is impressive because this really has all the trait of spyware; apparently it installs without asking for permission ?

[–] Moose@moose.best 30 points 1 day ago

Yup, heard about it a week or two ago. Found it installed on my Samsung phone, it never asked for permissions or gave any info that it was added to my phone.

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[–] Whippygoatcream@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hope they like all my dick pics

[–] EndofLife@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

Don't worry they won't!

/Burn

[–] Nightsoul@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you was able to find and uninstall the app with no issues

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[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I just un-installed it

Anyone know what Android System Intelligence does? Should that be un-installed as well?

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ they're like bed bugs

Is it too much to ask that my phone only contain the shit that makes it work, and not anything else?

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Its a classic example of using "BUT THE CHILDREN" to be invasive dickheads.

And it immediately reminds me of the story of the guy whose kid had a rash in the diaper area during covid, and the pediatrician requested pictures to remotely diagnose and treat, which google flagged as child pornography and called the cops on him, and banned/locked him out of everything (phone number, emails, pictures, etc etc) because he had everything on google.

and no amount of the police, or even doctor, insisting the pictures were medical necessity and not child pornography would convince google to restore his acount or even let him recover his number/email/pictures/etc.

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[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 4 points 1 day ago

You can safely uninstall System Intelligence if you don't need it. My phone has worked fine without it in the past year.

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[–] SavageCoconut@lemmy.world 117 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Google says that SafetyCore “provides on-device infrastructure for securely and privately performing classification to help users detect unwanted content. Users control SafetyCore, and SafetyCore only classifies specific content when an app requests it through an optionally enabled feature.”

GrapheneOS — an Android security developer — provides some comfort, that SafetyCore “doesn’t provide client-side scanning used to report things to Google or anyone else. It provides on-device machine learning models usable by applications to classify content as being spam, scams, malware, etc. This allows apps to check content locally without sharing it with a service and mark it with warnings for users.”

But GrapheneOS also points out that “it’s unfortunate that it’s not open source and released as part of the Android Open Source Project and the models also aren’t open let alone open source… We’d have no problem with having local neural network features for users, but they’d have to be open source.” Which gets to transparency again.

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[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (18 children)

For people who have not read the article:

Forbes states that there is no indication that this app can or will "phone home".

Its stated use is for other apps to scan an image they have access to find out what kind of thing it is (known as "classification"). For example, to find out if the picture you've been sent is a dick-pick so the app can blur it.

My understanding is that, if this is implemented correctly (a big 'if') this can be completely safe.

Apps requesting classification could be limited to only classifying files that they already have access to. Remember that android has a concept of "scoped storage" nowadays that let you restrict folder access. If this is the case, well it's no less safe than not having SafetyCore at all. It just saves you space as companies like Signal, WhatsApp etc. no longer need to train and ship their own machine learning models inside their apps, as it becomes a common library / API any app can use.

It could, of course, if implemented incorrectly, allow apps to snoop without asking for file access. I don't know enough to say.

Besides, you think that Google isn't already scanning for things like CSAM? It's been confirmed to be done on platforms like Google Photos well before SafetyCore was introduced, though I've not seen anything about it being done on devices yet (correct me if I'm wrong).

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 31 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Forbes states that there is no indication that this app can or will "phone home".

That doesn't mean that it doesn't. If it were open source, we could verify it. As is, it should not be trusted.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I'd that what's killing my fucking battery like crazy lately?

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[–] red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Even with the latest update from Samsung, I am not seeing this app. My OnePlus did get it with the February update and I had to remove it.

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Seems to be innocuous, but there's no harm in removing it. Next update, it'll be returned, so the better solution long-term will be (if you're rooted) is to use an application to freeze it, which effectively disables it and it should survive and update. If you delete the app, a new update will put it back.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jokes on you my phone is so old it hasn't updated in 4 years

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