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Anon hates smartphones (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] angelmountain@feddit.nl 45 points 2 days ago

You don't hate smartphones; you hate capitalism.

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I honestly hate smartphones as well, not because of any of what OP posted. On my PC, I can install whatever I want, including swapping out the OS. Most smartphones are locked down, and the few that allow alternative ROMs have huge incompatibilities w/ FOSS OSes (i.e. getting SMS to work is a bit spotty).

My phone runs GrapheneOS. I would much rather use something else (e.g. PostmarketOS), but it's the least bad option that supports all the features I need. I am still limited to Android-compatible apps, and developing for my phone is a lot more painful than any other ARM-based device because I'm stuck w/ the Android ecosystem.

The end result is that I don't feel like I truly own my phone, whereas I definitely feel that way about my PC. Yeah, my phone is convenient, and I don't use most of the nonsense Anon is complaining about (I mostly use websites on my phone instead of apps), but I still generally dislike having a thing in my pocket that I don't actually control.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The end result is that I don’t feel like I truly own my phone

You kinda/sorta don't. Manufacturers saw an opportunity to create a closed environment around the tech, not unlike gaming consoles, and made sure it happened that way. It may also be a side-effect of smartphones emerging from the same manufacturers that made far less capable and less open devices in generations prior (think old flip phones and 1st gen cell phones). Just like with game consoles, DRM (coupled with DMCA advantages) and the attached walled-garden retail environment are the prime motivators there. Marketing and financing help make sure it stays this way.

At the same time, providing a watered down platform for the masses did accelerate all the things OP is talking about. Phone/tablet apps make user interaction insanely^1 easy to do without any understanding of the platform its on. In contrast, PC's do a great job of requiring some amount of tech literacy before you start. So most people that would be stymied by the complexities^2 in a Windows system or Mac can easily do all kinds of internet-enabled things, for cheaper, on their phone. It's not a root cause by any measure, but I really do think that the commodification of software services in this way, has thrown gasoline on whatever fires were already burning.


  1. Note: not "insanely great".
  2. I know what you're thinking, dear reader. You would be surprised.
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[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago

Calling out cops on their bullshit, troublshooting your pc when you bork the ethernet, sending photos of your feces to your friends to name a few

[-] Hule@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Usable flashlight!

[-] elidoz@lemmy.ml 47 points 2 days ago

smartphone manufacturers have almost no common standards, they are made to be bought and then disposed of instead of upgrading the specs

it's impossible to do stuff like upgrading ram which would be very easy on a computer, and every smartphone has a different cpu

companies are doing their best to keep the open source guys out of the game, which in my opinion would solve a lot of the issues if this weren't the case

I want a smartphone without ios or android but just plain linux, which should be upgradable and durable, possibly with open source firmware and that kind of stuff

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

Don't worry! RAM is not upgradable on a lot of laptops now as well"!

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[-] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago

I'm prepared for the downvotes knowing where I'm posting.

If you hate it that much, why are you using it? It's a tool. It's useful. It also allows you to overindulge, but that says more about you than the tool.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A lot of those are problems caused by phones regardless of whether one uses one themselves.

But for the personal ones, there are self aware addicts of all kinds. Smokers know cigarettes are killing them, complain about them, sometimes even hate them but can't stop.

Edit: pair o words

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[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 33 points 2 days ago

For someone sharing OP's opinion, simply "not using it" wouldn't solve anything. Most of the problems OP lists is stems from that people in general use them.

I'm not saying you should agree with OP, but your argument misses the point.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago

Yet, you engage with society. Curious.

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[-] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago
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[-] atro_city@fedia.io 27 points 2 days ago

I can watch porn on the go?

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago

Ruined cell phone keyboards

Ruined cell phone batteries

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What do you mean "is there anything good about smartphones at all"? It made a ton of money for Apple and its shareholders, that's the only thing that matters. Who cares that it caused anxiety in a whole generation and ruined social life?

[-] MooseTheDog@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Unironically this. I wish I had just paid in dollars instead of my data. Looking back, it was too good to be true. It's hard to deny we never should've let it get this engrained in our lives.

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago

Add in ruined music to that. Shitty speakers, super lossy codecs to preserve cellular bandwidth, even shittier Bluetooth compression, listening to music on a phone is convenient but it sounds like shit. And we've got generations of people who think that's what music is supposed to sound like.

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[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 days ago

Before modern smartphones existed, I dreamed that they would one day exist and we could use computers and the Internet whereever we are, not just from home/work/school.

There are bad things about them too, but overall I would not want to do without them.

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