I would not say Stupidpol is necessarily transphobic but skeptical of a lot of gender identity related stuff because of liberals. They also don't like that people treat the whole subject as a sacred cow.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So they're transphobic.

The discussion begins and ends at "Transwomen are women"

[–] AlphaSpellswordZ@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, nothing is ever that simple in life. Most of them have the average person's view of someone who is trans..

They think it is strange and are skeptical, that is not the same as hatred or malice. And to be fair to them, liberals kinda messed up the average person's perception of trans people. That doesn't excuse hate but it does excuse ignorance and skepticism.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

liberals kinda messed up the average person’s perception of trans people

How?

[–] AlphaSpellswordZ@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

By doing too much and also not portraying them as normal people who just want to chill and have families just like anyone else

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Define "Doing too much"

[–] AlphaSpellswordZ@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Sorry it took so long to get back to you I have been working a lot this week.

But here is what I mean by liberals doing too much:

You can believe trans people deserve equal rights while also believing liberals made strategic and rhetorical mistakes especially by collapsing complex medical, legal, and social questions into moral absolutes. That approach didn’t persuade skeptics, it hardened them, and it arguably set the movement back.

Another mistake liberals made was failing to consistently depict trans people as ordinary members of society. Basically, people who want stable relationships, families, careers, and a low-drama life like anyone else.

Media and activist spaces tend to amplify the loudest, most transgressive, or most online voices, which created a distorted public image that doesn’t reflect the majority of trans people.

That skewed portrayal made it easier for opponents to frame trans people as alien or extreme, when in reality most just want to live quietly and be left alone.

Some liberal approaches also struggled because they lacked clear, institutionally workable policy frameworks, which made implementation inconsistent and easy to attack.

This is how I believe that liberals fumbled the whole situation.

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