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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 39 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Renee didn't escalate, and see what that got her?

ICE is dependent on people not being able to fight back. They are bullies, and would be much less likely to engage if they could end up getting three bullets in the face. Power that can be applied to them, is the only thing that a bully would respect.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Right, she didn't and we get outrage and a chance. If she pulled a gun on ICE then ICE would actually have ammo for their actions. I know how it sounds, but killing peaceful protestors is a very different thing from killing aggressive protestors. Deaths will increase with aggression from our side.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Renee wouldn't have to pull a gun, so long as some observers and protesters are carrying. This is because there is an implication: "If you harm us, we will do the same to you." It would go BOTH ways.

Problem is, ICE doesn't have consequences of any kind to keep them from committing violence. They get the satisfaction of hurting people, without paying a price for it.

[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I fully agree with you

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