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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 27 points 1 day ago (19 children)

Trump may have put a small speedbump in the path, but Ford could have absolutely pushed forward with promoting EVs if they wanted to. People do buy EVs even without incentives, and car companies have been telling people what their preferences are the whole time.

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Some richer people buy EVs without incentives. Most people can't with how expensive they are upfront. Same with solar panels.

[–] the_wise_wolf@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Chinese EVs and solar panels are dirt cheap. They become expensive because of tariffs. And western car companies really don't like to invest in EVs because planning ahead 10 years won't pay off right NOW.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Western countries give subsidies to EV buyers, Chinese government gives subsidies to EV manufacturers, including for cars sold overseas. The idea is to drown out competition and then they can drop the subsidies and raise prices.

The tariffs are protection from an unfair strategy and is used in other markets, not just EVs - and against other countries, not just China. The idea is that if another country makes things artificially cheap, you use tariffs to level the playing field.

So yes, tariffs do have a valid use case. Whatever the fuck Trump decided to do with literally all of USA's trading partners is not one of them unless you REALLY want to isolate your own economy for the benefit of literally nobody but a few billionaires. But protecting your own internal industries from unfair competition absolutely is one.

[–] the_wise_wolf@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Western countries give subsidies to EV buyers, Chinese government gives subsidies to EV manufacturers, including for cars sold overseas.

You are raising a good point. And I agree, countries should protect themselves from those practices. But this is done only selectively. Maybe Europe is the better example here, where tariffs only apply to EVs. And you know what. That's not even the problem. Why not buy subsidized products from China, as long as they don't destroy the local industry. But here's the issue. China has invested a lot in green tech and they produce it really cheap. The west is unwilling to make those investments. So they turn to tariffs and pretend that subsidies are the sole problem. Now people cannot by cheap Chinese EVs, but local car companies are also not committed to EVs. Contrast that with solar panels, where the Europeans did the exact opposite, but equally stupid. They let the local solar industry die. And since there are no tariffs, solar panels are actually cheap.

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