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Considering a used 2023 Nissan leaf (slrpnk.net)

submitted 1 week ago by SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net to c/electricvehicles@slrpnk.net

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I’ve found a 2023 leaf for some $10k, and with selling my ICE car, which is starting to cost more to maintain than it’s worth, it’ll realistically only cost me about $5k, maybe less. It’s got 33k miles on it, or about 10k/yr which is kinda high-average, but meh. The range in it is far enough to go all the places I’d realistically be going. (If not for making regular trips over 100 miles I’d get one of the ultra-cheap 2015 era EVs that can handle 60-80 miles..)

I probably want it even tho I’ve never test driven one. I’d obviously still do that but I think I kinda want it anyway. This one is located about 3 hours away, but it sounds like they may do inter-dealership trades up to this area, so maybe not a concern.

So what do I need to know? Can the tracking modem be disconnected? Do the batteries fail a lot? Does this model have a ton of quirks? Is it just cheap because people don’t want used EVs? Is this a horrible idea?

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[–] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 18 points 1 week ago (9 children)

33k miles is nothing on an EV. The batteries don't fail, although they do degrade. Try to keep within 20-80% to reduce this. I've not heard of any quirks with the Leafs. Go for it, you won't regret it!

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does it have a way to keep the charge in that range if, for example, it sits on a charger most of the time because I don’t use it?

[–] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I believe you can set a limit on the Leaf so it will stop when it reaches it (I don't have one, but that's what I've heard)

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You cannot. We own both a Hyundai and a Nissan. The Hyundai has a % based charge limiter in the the software.

The Nissan does not. It only has a timer. Figuring out how to charge to 80% involves math I'm unwilling to do.

It's frustrating and tbh is one of the things that would be easily solved, which is probably why they won't, and hence my next vehicle will not be another Nissan. This is also probably why their batteries burn out. on average, sooner than the competition.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My 2018 Nissan Leaf tells you how long it'll take to charge to 80%, to the nearest 30 mins. I use that all the time to set the charge timer.

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, ours does that too. My point is that you have futz around with the timer each time instead of just setting it to the nearest increment of 10% and getting on with things.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

True.

The leaf was one of the first mass market and usable EVs, and iirc, originally they had or planned a setting that let you charge to 80% by default and 100% as an option, which is of course exactly what you want, but some regulator or other decided that they would only be allowed to quote 80% range if that were the default, so to satisfy some pen pusher, it's quite deliberately inconvenient. Of course once the trail had been blazed everyone knows what the deal is so newer cars can have more convenient settings.

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is very good info. I appreciate that.

I guess I’ll have to leave my cave more often, or reduce the charging it can get. Ungh. I’ll do the math on the minimum errands and visits I need to run before I’ll ever do math on electricity.

I have both 110 and 220 in my garage, so maybe I can find a configuration that works to supply minimum power without a fancy charge limiting thing (yes I do watch technology connections, and yes I probably will need such nonsense)

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Our place came with a decent charger in the garage so it's really just about me remembering to unplug it before I crash for the night. But I'd much rather dial it it.

Here are some more notes/observations in case they help anyone:

The leaf has a 60kwh battery compared to the 37.5 in the Hyundai.

Surprisingly they have comparable practical range. On a nice spring day 320km on the Hyundai and 380km for the leaf.

The leaf (used, 2024, 8000km) definitely feels like a nicer build and has smoother suspension, the Hyundai (2020, brand new) is feels peppier and (imo) handles a bit more like it is trying to prove something (not in a bad way. It's just...eager). It also has slightly more granular settings for resistance on the braking side (0-3) an auto-hold feature (press brakes and you're held in place until you press accelerator) but it's not possible to drive it one-pedal mode.

The leaf has an "e-pedal" mode that will come to a complete stop if you don't actively press on the accelerator.

The display on the leaf looks like windows CE OS from the 90s. Hyundai's is sleeker but they are both in-car displays so you can set your expectations accordingly.

Tldr; Hyundai is more efficient and feels sportier. Leaf feels higher end, drives smoother but burns more watts.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

Easy fix: charge at the minimum power you can. Less stress for the battery.

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