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[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

The thing that Neoliberals will grow to understand very quickly as material conditions worsen; is that FDR was not the savior of the working class. He was the savior of the capitalist FROM the working class. And right now, there isn't an FDR to be found.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Neoliberals, and even more so social democrats, are among the most (effectively) conservative candidates in a certain sense. With the understanding that pure capitalism is so unsustainable that it will eventually destroy itself, social democrats, by undoing some of the harm caused by capitalism, only seek to conserve it.

Of course, I think they're (social democrats, not neoliberals) a better choice for now, since they don't work to actively harm the working class. But in the long run, they are what's keeping capitalism afloat. I don't know what's the way to escape the clutches of capitalism without causing complete societal collapse, but social democracy ain't it.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Social democrats in the West managed to keep capitalism afloat because the brunt of the exploitation was moved abroad.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that's a critical difference between social democracy and true socialism. Socialists are against exploitation anywhere in the world.

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