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[–] SarahFromOz@lemmy.world 174 points 3 days ago (32 children)
[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 219 points 3 days ago (25 children)

Wow.

He made them work 14 consecutive 12+ hour days of physical labour (sun up to sun down) then bounced their cheques. Then, offered $1400 ($100/day = $8/hr, well below the CA minimum wage at the time) but only if they did 300-500 push ups, while bragging he makes thousands an hour.

Jesus that guy was an absolute asshole.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

The thing that Neoliberals will grow to understand very quickly as material conditions worsen; is that FDR was not the savior of the working class. He was the savior of the capitalist FROM the working class. And right now, there isn't an FDR to be found.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Neoliberals, and even more so social democrats, are among the most (effectively) conservative candidates in a certain sense. With the understanding that pure capitalism is so unsustainable that it will eventually destroy itself, social democrats, by undoing some of the harm caused by capitalism, only seek to conserve it.

Of course, I think they're (social democrats, not neoliberals) a better choice for now, since they don't work to actively harm the working class. But in the long run, they are what's keeping capitalism afloat. I don't know what's the way to escape the clutches of capitalism without causing complete societal collapse, but social democracy ain't it.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Social democrats in the West managed to keep capitalism afloat because the brunt of the exploitation was moved abroad.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, that's a critical difference between social democracy and true socialism. Socialists are against exploitation anywhere in the world.

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago

Honestly, I consider myself a social democrat, and that’s a fair criticism of social democratic politics.

You can mitigate the worst excesses of capitalism, but only at the price of constant vigilance. And if you do a good job, people don’t think you are doing much of anything, and hound you about the “government inefficiency”, the “oppressive regulatory pressure” and the “poor business climate”. You are basically running PR for capitalism.

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