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Underwhelmed by protests (lemmy.ml)

submitted 7 months ago by electric_nan@lemmy.ml to c/askchapo@hexbear.net

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I just went down to our local lib demonstration. All I could really feel was depressed. All those people waving signs but I wonder how many are willing to do anything more than that? Shit most of them were pretty old, tbh. I approached some people I clocked as comrades but I was very awkward and we didn't have a conversation.

I guess I don't really have a question here. Just feel like everybody has identified (some of) the problems, but have totally misidentified the solutions. Will these protests ever accomplish anything? Can we radicalize the protestors without them having to get beaten by cops? Or is that what it will take?

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[–] procapra@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago (9 children)

We all say we understand these kinds of protests are pointless, but we all are pissing ourselves scared of the alternative.

If someone does start speaking up, talking about actual political violence at a party meeting that shit gets shutdown fast in my experience. Nobody wants that no matter how true it is because we all know people will die, be imprisoned, suffer lifelong injuries, etc.

IDC what party, what org, nobody is going out guns blazing unless they are okay with ruining/ending their own life. How many people do you know at that point? I know 1 person like that (and it isn't me). You manage to get a group of like, 20+ people like that you can actually start doing the more radical stuff. Until then we are going out doing this stuff and giving ourselves a pat on the back. Sorry if that sounds a bit jaded, but that's how I feel about it. That depression you're feeling? It doesn't go away. You will feel depression and anger after every. single. protest. You'll keep going so you don't feel sick to your stomach for not doing anything at all, but it won't help.

This turned into more of a vent than helpful advice. Sorry.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You manage to get a group of like, 20+ people like that you can actually start doing the more radical stuff.

The problem I see with getting 20 armed radicals together is doing it without one of them being a cop. It requires a level of 21st century secrecy and discipline that I can't even imagine, because how do you even get to that size while also being so clandestine that the State doesn't find out before you can act? It's not like we aren't all already being watched.

[–] procapra@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

Those are just the breaks unfortunately. I agree with you though.

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