[Dormant] moved to !historymemes@piefed.social

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.cafe/post/24037870

Hey everyone! We're moving to Piefed.social! You can find the comm at

!HistoryMemes@piefed.social

(this link might work if you're on Fedia?) !historymemes@piefed.social

Hope to see everyone there!

Feed for all migrated comms here: https://piefed.social/f/pugmigration

Will I need to change my account to participate?

Nope! Piefed is compatible with Lemmy instances, so you can keep using your current account! All you have to do is hit 'unsubscribe' on HistoryMemes on Lemmy.world, and hit 'subscribe' on HistoryMemes on Piefed.social

After that, just participate as you normally would!

Why move the comm?

Nothing in particular against Lemmy.world - the admins here have made some amateurish mistakes, but I'm willing to accept that we're all human and running a big instance is not easy, especially for a volunteer team. The issue is with the Lemmy devs.

There's been long-standing tension with the Lemmy devs - namely, that they use their influence over their flagship instance - .ml - to enforce the removal of acknowledgements of incidents of genocide and imperialism that they like. If you're morbidly curious, !MeanwhileOnGrad@sh.itjust.works documents this, with things like acknowledgement of the Holodomor or refutation of the claim that Ukraine deserves to be genocided by modern Russia being removed by dev/admin fiat.

This places users who are not genocide deniers or supporters in an awkward position - namely, that either we refrain from contributing to the devs - damaging the longevity of the platform we're using - or that we contribute to them despite their horrific views - enabling them to continue spreading and creating a space for genocide denial.

With that in mind (and I was a Kbin user initially precisely because of my discomfort with the Lemmy devs - I hope Ernest is okay, wherever he is), I've been keeping an eye out for a viable Lemmy Fediverse alternative for a while now. Piefed's main dev has a good head on his shoulders, and it appears to be a robust platform. I think Piefed is ready, and I'm just medicated enough at the moment to make the effort of revving up the comms from scratch and writing up this screed.

Why Piefed.social specifically?

A good question. I considered Piefed.world, as the organization .world belongs to is larger than Lemmy/Piefed and robust. Anarchist.nexus was right out, on account of it being an offshoot of dbzer0, whose admins have chosen to indulge in very concerning Uyghur genocide denial and tolerating Holodomor denial on its instance. Ultimately I decided to give Piefed.social a chance on account of a coherent core mission statement in favor of democracy and rational discourse.

Unruffled denying Uyghur genocide

Holodomor denial left up in a comm where the only two mods are dbzer0 admins, they both participated in the thread, the material was reported, it was specifically pointed out to one of them, and the comm regularly removes Zionist genocide apologia and denial under the (legitimate) justification that genocide denial is against the rules. Apparently, the Holodomor isn't a REAL genocide in the admins' eyes.

Dbzer0 has instance-banned my main account for posting about this on .world, and will likely instance ban this account too, eventually. So if you're a Dbzer0 or Anarchist.nexus user wondering where I went, that's your answer.

What will happen to this comm?

Well, I won't be participating in it anymore except to remind people of the move, and hopefully most users will follow suit and join the Piefed.social community. I'll stick around to remove spam, but that's about it.

Two links for explanation

During the 19th century, the United States Government tried to exterminate the bison in order to put the native prairie Indians, who relied massively on the bison, under control. This process was also helped by private farmers who to tried to maximize the amount of fields available for agriculture by killing too many bison.

The bison, however, were also an important ecological factor in keeping the prairies diverse in plants and animals life, and without them, the top layer soil eroded causing the great dust bowl of the 1930s.

Hey everyone! We're moving to Piefed.social! You can find the comm at

!HistoryMemes@piefed.social

(this link might work if you're on Fedia?) !historymemes@piefed.social

Hope to see everyone there!

Feed for all migrated comms here: https://piefed.social/f/pugmigration

Will I need to change my account to participate?

Nope! Piefed is compatible with Lemmy instances, so you can keep using your current account! All you have to do is hit 'unsubscribe' on HistoryMemes on Lemmy.world, and hit 'subscribe' on HistoryMemes on Piefed.social

After that, just participate as you normally would!

Why move the comm?

Nothing in particular against Lemmy.world - the admins here have made some amateurish mistakes, but I'm willing to accept that we're all human and running a big instance is not easy, especially for a volunteer team. The issue is with the Lemmy devs.

There's been long-standing tension with the Lemmy devs - namely, that they use their influence over their flagship instance - .ml - to enforce the removal of acknowledgements of incidents of genocide and imperialism that they like. If you're morbidly curious, !MeanwhileOnGrad@sh.itjust.works documents this, with things like acknowledgement of the Holodomor or refutation of the claim that Ukraine deserves to be genocided by modern Russia being removed by dev/admin fiat.

This places users who are not genocide deniers or supporters in an awkward position - namely, that either we refrain from contributing to the devs - damaging the longevity of the platform we're using - or that we contribute to them despite their horrific views - enabling them to continue spreading and creating a space for genocide denial.

With that in mind (and I was a Kbin user initially precisely because of my discomfort with the Lemmy devs - I hope Ernest is okay, wherever he is), I've been keeping an eye out for a viable Lemmy Fediverse alternative for a while now. Piefed's main dev has a good head on his shoulders, and it appears to be a robust platform. I think Piefed is ready, and I'm just medicated enough at the moment to make the effort of revving up the comms from scratch and writing up this screed.

Why Piefed.social specifically?

A good question. I considered Piefed.world, as the organization .world belongs to is larger than Lemmy/Piefed and robust. Anarchist.nexus was right out, on account of it being an offshoot of dbzer0, whose admins have chosen to indulge in very concerning Uyghur genocide denial and tolerating Holodomor denial on its instance. Ultimately I decided to give Piefed.social a chance on account of a coherent core mission statement in favor of democracy and rational discourse.

Unruffled denying Uyghur genocide

Holodomor denial left up in a comm where the only two mods are dbzer0 admins, they both participated in the thread, the material was reported, it was specifically pointed out to one of them, and the comm regularly removes Zionist genocide apologia and denial under the (legitimate) justification that genocide denial is against the rules. Apparently, the Holodomor isn't a REAL genocide in the admins' eyes.

Dbzer0 has instance-banned my main account for posting about this on .world, and will likely instance ban this account too, eventually. So if you're a Dbzer0 or Anarchist.nexus user wondering where I went, that's your answer.

What will happen to this comm?

Well, I won't be participating in it anymore except to remind people of the move, and hopefully most users will follow suit and join the Piefed.social community. I'll stick around to remove spam, but that's about it.

cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/45434467

In 1914, the Republican Party (USA) was primarily split between between conservatives and progressives. Theodore Roosevelt, the defacto leader of the progressive wing, had left the presidency after barely losing the election nearly two years prior. Before assuming the office, he spent decades in New York state politics and led one of the most prolificly adventurous lives of any US president, ever.

That summer, Teddy made some very public statements accusing William Barnes -- a well connected New York Republican from a well known family -- of corruption.

Barnes sued Roosevelt for libel; a more common practice then, as libel laws of that era favored the plantiff. Calling someone like Roosevelt a liar in such public fashion was moronic from the start. Instead of backing away from his accusation or pretending he had made some sort of mistake, Roosevelt instead set out to prove that he meant exactly what he said and that his statements were true. He ultimately prevaled and the jury found him not guilty of libel.

The ordeal backfired on Barnes' spectacularely, effectively ending his political career and influence. It also helped reignite Roosevelt's political career, making him be seen as a serious candidate for the 1920 presidential election. Sadly, that possibility never materialized as Roosevelt died in 1919.

The moral of the story: don't fuck with a bull moose.

Hey everyone! We're moving to Piefed.social! You can find the comm at

!HistoryMemes@piefed.social

(this link might work if you're on Fedia?) !historymemes@piefed.social

Hope to see everyone there!

Feed for all migrated comms here: https://piefed.social/f/pugmigration

Will I need to change my account to participate?

Nope! Piefed is compatible with Lemmy instances, so you can keep using your current account! All you have to do is hit 'unsubscribe' on HistoryMemes on Lemmy.world, and hit 'subscribe' on HistoryMemes on Piefed.social

After that, just participate as you normally would!

Why move the comm?

Nothing in particular against Lemmy.world - the admins here have made some amateurish mistakes, but I'm willing to accept that we're all human and running a big instance is not easy, especially for a volunteer team. The issue is with the Lemmy devs.

There's been long-standing tension with the Lemmy devs - namely, that they use their influence over their flagship instance - .ml - to enforce the removal of acknowledgements of incidents of genocide and imperialism that they like. If you're morbidly curious, !MeanwhileOnGrad@sh.itjust.works documents this, with things like acknowledgement of the Holodomor or refutation of the claim that Ukraine deserves to be genocided by modern Russia being removed by dev/admin fiat.

This places users who are not genocide deniers or supporters in an awkward position - namely, that either we refrain from contributing to the devs - damaging the longevity of the platform we're using - or that we contribute to them despite their horrific views - enabling them to continue spreading and creating a space for genocide denial.

With that in mind (and I was a Kbin user initially precisely because of my discomfort with the Lemmy devs - I hope Ernest is okay, wherever he is), I've been keeping an eye out for a viable Lemmy Fediverse alternative for a while now. Piefed's main dev has a good head on his shoulders, and it appears to be a robust platform. I think Piefed is ready, and I'm just medicated enough at the moment to make the effort of revving up the comms from scratch and writing up this screed.

Why Piefed.social specifically?

A good question. I considered Piefed.world, as the organization .world belongs to is larger than Lemmy/Piefed and robust. Anarchist.nexus was right out, on account of it being an offshoot of dbzer0, whose admins have chosen to indulge in very concerning Uyghur genocide denial and tolerating Holodomor denial on its instance. Ultimately I decided to give Piefed.social a chance on account of a coherent core mission statement in favor of democracy and rational discourse.

What will happen to this comm?

Well, I won't be participating in it anymore except to remind people of the move, and hopefully most users will follow suit and join the Piefed.social community. I'll stick around to remove spam, but that's about it.