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[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

"Oh you're an anarchist? Then solve literally one problem that doesn't create ten other, worse problems. Seriously, just one. Please"

[-] Napain@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

imagine there is a evil capitalist who makes your fav social network unfree. and there is a anarchisticly organized fediverse that gives you a save haven from it.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Lemmy is not anarchy. The fedivierse is not anarchy.

[-] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago

Anarchism is not the absense of rules, it's about free association, cooperation and avoiding unjust hierarchies.

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[-] perennial@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Well technically each user could have their own instance if they choose to do so. They'd be free to interact with who they choose to interact with and block who they wouldn't want to interact with. They'd be free from any outside hierarchy. Many user choose not to do this, but that doesn't mean the system is inherently hierarchical.

(I'm excluding the fact that not every user has the capital to host an instance)

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[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago

So, who's in charge?

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[-] Gelcube69@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago

Okay, but thats literally the problem with authority. Any problem it can solve can also go unchecked in creating 10 more.

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[-] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml 26 points 10 months ago

Look I'm not saying we have to switch to a total lack of hierarchy immediately. I just want us to start at the top and eat our way down and see how that affects things.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 11 points 10 months ago

(Researchers going over ancient Internet history): Wow there must have been some SERIOUS food crisis going on from 2000-20xx! There's so much talk about cannibalism and guillotines!

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago

Have you seen what grocery stores are charging these days? Yeah, there's a crisis.

[-] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

My plan would help reduce that grocery bill a little bit(e) at a time

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Just start eating at the top and reassess when everyone's full.

[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago

On Lemmy, it's more like "oh you're an anarchist? You obviously haven't read enough Lennin"

[-] Gelcube69@reddthat.com 9 points 10 months ago

I'm entering my years as a senior anarchist, and I always find it funny when some in their 20's who got their entire personality from a podcast tells me to read to read On Authority or State and Revolution or something. My dude, I actually read people I disagree with, do you? Because only someone that doesn't would think those are profound criticisms.

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[-] twistypencil@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

People keep saying that about lemmy, but I haven't seen it. Maybe it is your filter bubble?

[-] hypelightfly@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago

To be fair, your instance has defederated from the 2 large tankie instances.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago

Same here, these people constantly complaining about "tankies" seem to vastly outnumber the alleged tankies in my experience

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I haven't seen a single one personally

[-] hypelightfly@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

Your instance has defederated from them.

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[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure eating billionaires and pumping their Ill gotten gains into systems that help humanity would fix most issues. Kill off any greedy fucks

[-] huginn@feddit.it 4 points 10 months ago
[-] isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Absolutely not lol.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago

It doesn't have to solve every problem, but it does have to result in a better world than we have now, which it won't.

[-] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

This meme applies to any ideology sufficiently removed from the current state of things. Ideologies are fun, but conversations that ignore how much work is required to transition get boring after a while.

Which is why I think slowly eating our way down from the top is far more interesting and safe proposal than any pure ideology.

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