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[-] Foni@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago

As a European I always wonder why Americans don't create an alternative party to the Democrats, after all it is the party that in 2016 cheated in the primaries so that Hillary would win and still lost to an idiot. If you create a real left-wing party you can seriously propose things like socialized healthcare just as the right is not shy about proposing crazy things like banning abortion.

The only difference is that they have been successful in colonizing the Republican Party and the Democratic Party is simply an outdated instrument that no longer represents its own bases.

[-] Famko@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

Americans have tried to create third parties before, but due to the electoral college and the first past the post voting system, new parties are destined to fail and not win any votes. So the current two party system is the natural state of America.

The only way to change this is to get rid of the electoral college and the FPTP system, like that's ever going to happen.

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

You can get a successful new party but only if one of the two big ones completely self-destructs and creates a power vacuum. And even then the new party will probably be a faction of the defunct one. There definitely won't be a three-party constellation for more than a brief period.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

completely self-destructs

Well the GOP is on its way, and if they reform into a moderately sensible party, the dems will have to move left to actually differentiate themselves.

I'm dreaming though.

[-] Jumpingspiderman@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

The GOP is well on the way to creating a minority rule one party state.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Sure, but they're like a car trying to make it to the finish line with 2 flats and a broken axle. They lost a lot of support when they killed roe and are losing people on the trans culture war, if only because it's been the only thing they've talked about for the past several years.

Granted, a lot of dems are working hard to be unelectable, so we'll have to see if the GOP can establish a fascist theocracy before they fall apart. It's a toss up currently.

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