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[-] Technus@lemmy.zip 108 points 3 months ago

Imagine what the world would be like without free software.

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 86 points 3 months ago

Lots of people shitting on Microsoft on this thread ignoring that it's not Microsoft who charge for a codec and that Microsoft promote a royalty-free HEVC competitor called AV1.

Guaranteed this video file is from an Apple device, where patent-encumbered HEVC is the default recording format.

[-] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Google Pixel also record in HEVC. The problem with AV1 is that unlike HEVC it wasn't made to be easily encoded in hardware. Which is probably also the fault of patents, but still...

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah mostly just blame MPEG. They make great tech and then make sure to suck every drop of blood/money out of those who want to use it

[-] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 months ago

Seems like it kinda improved with H.266, but since it's still not completely royalty-free, fuck that codec lol

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah I’m hoping the tech consortium that built AV1 continues to push through with new releases, though they’ll be fighting mpeg every step of the way on patents and shit

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[-] KrokanteBamischijf@feddit.nl 8 points 3 months ago

Transcoder here, if you're looking to leverage quality/file size benefits of your codec, you don't encode with hardware.

As a rule of fist hardware encoding is better served for streaming purposes where you need to crush a raw 1080p or 1440p stream into something that's actually a sensible bandwith as fast as possible, especially if you're streaming 60fps because your algorithm has a time limit of 16ms per frame.

If file size with preservation of quality is something you care about, you encode as slowly and thouroughly as you can, which is why x264 on your CPU will outperform encoders like NVENC any time.

When it comes to HEVC, software encoding is only really worth it if you have the time to spare, because x265 takes between 3x and 5x as long as encoding the same footage through x264, with a 15-20% smaller file size at best. It is also more intensive to decode, which is why you still see many files with a H.264 codec.

[-] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 7 points 3 months ago

Wouldn't it be the chipset vendors who would implement AV1 (or any other codec) in hardware?

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Yes, AV1 is supported in 11th gen intel. They were also part of the consortium that pushed for it, along with Apple and Microsoft, among others. It’s almost a response to HEVC, and is far newer (2013 vs 2018). But yeah, tech companies were tired of paying for MPEG licensing so they tried to create an open format. Apple, like any business will try to milk their HEVC contracts because they were so expensive, but their chips are supporting it now too.

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-confirms-meteor-lake-has-av1-video-encoding-and-decoding-support

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1694598394

[-] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 months ago

Yes, and there are some implementations now, but it's more complicated than for HEVC and also less efficient (I think)

[-] verdare@beehaw.org 5 points 3 months ago

AV1 was designed with hardware decoding in mind. The reason it isn’t as widely supported on hardware is because it was released 5 years after HEVC. It takes a while for new codecs to get hardware support, and even longer for that support to become ubiquitous.

Also, AV1 has the uphill battle of not being able to use any of the patented technology in HEVC.

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[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago

HEVC is decently popular in pirate circles

[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 months ago

Yeah, because we don't have to pay for it.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago
[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 69 points 3 months ago
[-] SteveTech@programming.dev 27 points 3 months ago

Here's the free device manufacturer version: https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9n4wgh0z6vhq

[-] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 22 points 3 months ago

What travesty of a video player is this?

[-] ashley@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 3 months ago

microshafts built in one :) luckily VLC allows playing hevc/mkv files out of the box lol

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 months ago

windows default

[-] AToM_exe@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

Install VLC.

[-] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 months ago

there's "HEVC … from Device Manufacturer" available to download for free if you really need it afaik

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 9 points 3 months ago

Only if your computer's manufacturer paid for it.

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[-] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Now I need to see vid_899880425_035412_980

[-] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 months ago

Pay to ~~win~~ play

[-] sverit@feddit.de 8 points 3 months ago

Blame the video creator for using a non free codec.

[-] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Turns out you can download that codec pack as a torrent.

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

Install MPC-HC.

[-] Shouted@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I’m convinced humanity doesn’t deserve software or computers in general. OP really be complaining about less than 6 quarters…

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago

That is a strawman interpretation of OP's point. In addition to being wrong, the technique is destructive to discussion.

It is infinitely more constructive (as in, people are more likely to read and care about your opinion) to use "Steel Man": https://constantrenewal.com/steel-man

With that, or just with some base level charitable thinking, we could look at OP's point like this: https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/nickel+and+dime+you

[-] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 months ago

So how many lootboxes should I put you down for, 300 or 400? They're only 99 cents each, so I'll just put you down for 1,000. After all, you wouldn't complain about less than 4 quarters, right?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

I remember Windows days and installing K-Lite or CCCP

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