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STUP•ID•POL:

Analysis and critique of identity fetishism as a political phenomenon, from a Marxist perspective.

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1qglaea/pentagon_was_prepared_for_strikes_against_iran/

As of now there is at least one Carrier strike group racing towards the Middle East, possibly more. It should be another week before the first strike group makes it to the region after patrols in the South China Sea.

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1qgojab/anyone_else_who_drifted_rightwards_c_20162022/

From the 2000s—mid-2010s, I was a fairly run-of-the-mill gay marriage, gun control, universal healthcare, etc. liberal. Like quite a lot of people, I drifted rightwards considerably between c. 2016—2022 due to left-wing radicalization during this period, especially re. racial and gender issues. And I thought this might be permanent. But now (i.e... since 2025 and especially since the Charlie Kirk shooting), though, I'm finding myself drifting leftwards again due to right-wing radicalization during this period. I've come to believe that which side in American politics—liberals or conservatives—is more r-slurred fluctuates over time. And while liberals were obviously the more r-slurred side between 2016—2022, I believe that now, the pendulum has swung back to conservatives hard. Liberals scared me back then, but now it's conservatives who are scaring me. So much of their rhetoric now—re. non-whites, women and feminism, China, Canada and Greenland amongst other things—strikes me as just cruel, hateful, arrogant, delusional, bloodthirsty, etc. "Street-shitters", "repeal the 19th", "bomb the Three Gorges Dam", etc. The overwhelming vibe I get from them is that they hate women, hate non-whites, hate liberals, hate the Chinese, hate Europeans, hate... basically anyone and everyone who isn't a white American conservative man. And I get that a lot of this is a reaction to 2016—2022 liberal excesses—I'm a white dude and can empathize with the resentment against much of the rhetoric from this period myself—but you're taking it too far, Chuds, and alienating me away again the same way liberals once did.

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1qgrl0f/59_of_trans_women_imprisoned_in_the_uk_were/

A parliamentary written submission that compiled UK prison data found that 76 out of 129 trans women prisoners (approximately 58.9 %) were serving sentences for sexual offences when the report was written.

A much higher share than for other prisoners. For comparison, only about 3.3 % of the general female prison population were sex offenders, and around 16.8 % of male prisoners were sex offenders in the same dataset.

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18973/pdf/

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1qggbwg/people_who_believe_in_idpol_believe_wealth/

They think if rich Whites are rich, that poor Whites somehow benefit from that. They think if they divide people into various racial groups and have liberal capitalist "representatives" of each group, that the people at the bottom benefit.

Trickle down economics do not work, therefore arguments that ignore a class divide are wrong.

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1qg4lvs/trump_ally_and_ice_deputy_director_resigns_to_run/

So it looks like this election is going to be between a legit blood-and-soil nationalist (Madison Sheahan, former ICE deputy director), and an aging New Deal Democrat (Marcy Kaptur) who's held the seat for 42 years but has lost significant ground with the rise of Trump. While Kaptur is far from the worst Democrat in the House (endorser of Bernie Sanders in 2016, opposes free trade), she is from the "work across the aisle" school that the Republicans already abandoned with Mitch McConnell's obstructionism, and in which they now certainly have no interest due to the MAGA takeover of the party.

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1qgime4/opposition_to_israels_genocide_in_gaza_being/

I’ll start by reiterating how liberal identity politics works in practice. It treats identities as moral categories, and not as historical or political formations. ‘An identity is a morally indivisible bloc, something you protect from harm, not something you analyze as part of a system of power,’ or so it goes.

Now add in a state. Israel says: we are the state of the Jewish people. Not metaphorically, not culturally, but politically. Once you’ve accepted the idpol frame, the logic is as follows:

  1. Jews are a historically persecuted group.

  2. Historically persecuted groups must be protected from attack.

  3. Israel defines itself as the political embodiment and defender of Jews.

  4. Therefore, attacking Israel is attacking Jews.

  5. Attacking Jews is antisemitism.

At no point in that chain is there room for asking, “Okay, but what kind of state is Israel? What it is materially doing in Gaza? Can a state permissibly commit these crimes, regardless of who it claims to represent?”

These questions are wrongspeak inside the idpol framework, because they reorient the focus from identity to power. Identity politics collapse the difference between an identity and an institution. Judaism (a religion, culture, and people spanning thousands of years and political positions) gets fused to Zionism (a modern nationalist project backed by a state and an army). Therefore, all critique shares the same taboo.

This is why even Jews can’t criticize the Israeli state and its actions without being labeled as antisemites or bad jews. The system cannot compute “a protected identity criticizing the institution that claims to embody it,” so it resolves the contradiction by declaring those Jews illegitimate. If politics is about protecting identities rather than analyzing power, and a powerful state successfully wraps itself in a protected identity, then any attempt to stop that state’s violence will be reclassified as bigotry.

In this sense, the Judaism–Zionism conflation has to be aggressively policed. If that distinction is allowed to stand, the moral framework disappears.

Zionism becomes a modern nationalist project with concrete class interests, military institutions, borders, and hegemonic allies. Israel becomes a state among states, not an identity under threat; genocide becomes genocide, no longer self defense.

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1qghzdp/if_trump_gets_greenland_trump_will_go_down_in/

Tagging this personality disorder because that, like many of his personal obsessions, is why he's so fixated on Greenland as a personal monument to his addled mind. This does not make political sense. It's as cruel as it is stupid.

"Realpolitik" analyses like these are amoral to the point of being wildly myopic. Yes, from a certain perspective, the headline is correct. The perspective of psychopaths whose "leadership" has directly and rapidly contributed to the downfall of U.S. hegemony.

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1qfrxw9/the_rich_do_not_fund_our_public_services_we_do/

https://xcancel.com/jasonhickel/status/2012145902589268111?s=46

We need a better, more ambitious message when it comes to taxation. The rich do not fund our public services. We do. My latest for New Internationalist.

"Now, once we understand that the main fiscal purpose of taxation is not to fund public services but to reduce excess demand, we can have a clear view of who should be taxed: the rich.

The problem with the rich is that they demand too much of our productive capacities. Their money translates into massive purchasing power (and also enables them to increase their investments and ownership of production). So we are then required to use our labour and resources to produce things like mansions, private jets, sports cars, estates, luxury goods and so on. This facilitates elite consumption and accumulation but it does not benefit society – it is wasteful, ecologically destructive, and it should be curtailed so that we can undertake production that does benefit society.

Taxation can be used to help achieve this in two ways: a) tax income and wealth over a certain threshold, and b) tax damaging and unnecessary goods.

Ultimately, we do not need to tax wage labour at all.

If a key purpose of taxation is to reduce excess demand and consumption, then it is reasonable to implement a very simple and straightforward tax rule. All income below a certain minimum threshold (the level needed to acquire goods and services necessary to live a good life) should be taxed at zero per cent, and all income above a certain maximum threshold (a level beyond which additional consumption is clearly unnecessary and destructive) should be taxed at 100 per cent.

The response from some on the right might be that under such a tax system the working classes would be contributing nothing whereas the rich would be contributing everything. But remember, taxation does not fund public services. The rich are not ‘contributing’ at all. Rather, we are preventing them from using too much of our productive capacity so that we can use it ourselves, for other purposes. So who is contributing? We are, in the form of our labour."

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1jdnnul/if_you_get_stuck_on_how_stupid_libs_can_be_talk/

Won't post a link to my post on another sub because the mods don't like that but if you're curious you can pretty easily find what I'm referring to.

Just a quick rant. This isn't a new or exciting take, but oh my god right wingers are fucking stupid. Mentally incapable of addressing any points you made. Can't refute anything you say using facts, just bullshit anecdotes and some nuggets of wisdom their dad told them while they were fishin.

I understand this sub is mostly dedicated to stupid shit lefties say sometimes but if you ever need a reminder who the true dumbfucks are look to your right.

K I'm better now. Do some stalking on my page and you can find the post I'm referring to if you're wondering. I've stared into the abyss and blinked.

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