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[-] zephyreks@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Friendly reminder that abortion is a legal and widely available in China and that the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic was one of the first countries to legalize abortion for any reason (and indeed, with the exception of the period surrounded WW2, abortion was both legal and common in the USSR). Abortion services are also widely available in Vietnam and Cuba.

Abortion policy in much of the EU is ancient and reflects a view that women are somehow less human than men. Something like half of the EU limits it to a 12 week term limit and it is still illegal (if not enforced) in Germany.

[-] silicon_reverie@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Friendly reminder that, on the whole, there's nothing "friendly" about the frankly horrifying Chinese and Russian human rights records, so "friendly" Lemmings begging us to focus on the single cherry-picked tree instead of the forest of atrocities might not be as "friendly" as they claim.

There are many shortcomings and worrying trends in the EU and the United States, but let's hold off on the false equivalencies to countries that engage in genocide, jail or "disappear" dissent, and (until recently) engaged in forced sterilization and/or abortion for women against their will as part of the One-Child policy. So yes, China is very "friendly" and "progressive" /s. As for modern Russia (since you're only mentioning the USSR), abortion is only legal as an elective procedure through the 12th week, requires a 2 to 7 day waiting period, and can be refused by the doctor against the patient's wishes. When you talk smack about countries in the EU despite praising Russia for the exact same thing, it doesn't exactly feel like you're conversing in good faith.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

you carefully ommited US war crimes in your post. might want to review it

[-] zephyreks@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago

The same One Child policy that kept fertility rates stable at... 1.7? That One Child policy? Huh. Odd. You'd think that forced sterilization would do a bit better than that.

Anyway, by your own admission, China is improving with regards to its treatment of people (and, as you claim, improving by leaps and bounds), meanwhile countries like the US and Poland are taking multiple steps backwards? I see...

As for the false equivalences? You mean that of genocide, genocide, or genocide?

Something like 2 million of the 41 million Black Americans are imprisoned today (5%). In comparison, even the most pessimistic and anti-Chinese perspectives put Uyghur detainment at around 10%. While China still has affirmative action on behalf of minorities (and has for decades), the US recently banned such actions. While China gives indigenous minorities interest-free business loans, proportional representation in government, and affirmative action policies for higher education, Native Americans get... a big lump sum of money when they turn 18 that drives them towards drug abuse and gambling?

As for jailing dissent? Nevermind that you've apparently completely forgotten about McCarthyism and the Red Scare, the US has developed the world's most complex and complete infrastructure for manufacturing consent... To the degree that the invasion of Iraq, intervention in Yugoslavia, intervention in Libya and occupation of Afghanistan were all seen to be fair and justified enough to happen. When people expose the extents of American interference, they get exiled. Views that differ from government policy lead to arrests, more arrests, even more arrests, tear gas, more tear gas, rubber bullets. As for dissenters? Don't worry, the US is happy to organize coups of any country that deviates from American policy, particularly in South America. If it was democratic before, it can be right-wing authoritarian today.

Sorry, you were talking about a false equivalence?

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