Russia Ukraine War

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Top diplomats from the United States and Russia met in Saudi Arabia on Tuesday to discuss ending the war in Ukraine and improving relations between Washington and Moscow. The Riyadh summit represents a monumental shift in U.S. policy after the Biden administration led an international effort to isolate Russia over its invasion and gave tens of billions in military aid to Kyiv. Participants included U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was not invited to attend and has said he won't recognize a peace deal negotiated without his country. European leaders have also been sidelined. For more on these developments, we host a discussion between economist Jeffrey Sachs and foreign policy analyst Matt Duss.

"This is a war that never should have happened," says Sachs, who faults "U.S. provocations" like the expansion of NATO for laying the groundwork for Russia's invasion in 2022. In holding these talks directly with Russia, "the Trump administration, for the first time, is telling the truth about the fundamental causes of this war," adds Sachs.

Duss says that while the U.S. has played a major role in the conflict, "Vladimir Putin is the one who chose to invade Ukraine." He also emphasizes that Ukrainians themselves have agency and have been key players in events since the end of the Cold War, including their current defense against Russia. "It's not just a story of unending U.S. villainy."

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Main Topic: The ongoing war in Ukraine, focusing on the possibility of peace negotiations and the roles played by the US, Russia, and Ukraine.

Key Points:

• Differing Perspectives: The debate features two guests with contrasting viewpoints. Jeffrey Sachs argues that the US bears significant responsibility for provoking the war through NATO expansion and other actions, advocating for negotiations to end the conflict. Matt Duss emphasizes Russia's responsibility for the invasion and expresses skepticism about negotiations without Ukraine's full participation.
• Peace Negotiations: The recent talks between US and Russian officials in Saudi Arabia are discussed as a potential turning point. Sachs views these talks positively, while Duss expresses concern that they might exclude Ukraine and benefit Putin.
• Historical Context: Both guests discuss the historical context of the conflict, highlighting different interpretations of events such as NATO expansion, the 2014 Ukrainian coup, and previous attempts at peace negotiations. Sachs emphasizes US provocations, while Duss stresses Russia's aggression.
• Ukraine's Role: A key point of contention is Ukraine's role in the conflict and its involvement in peace negotiations. Sachs criticizes Ukraine's initial refusal to negotiate, while Duss underscores Ukraine's right to self-determination and the importance of its participation in any peace agreement.
• US Foreign Policy: The debate touches upon broader criticisms of US foreign policy, with Sachs accusing the US of pursuing a policy of unipolarity and Duss acknowledging US foreign policy failures while emphasizing Russia's culpability.

Highlights:

• The contrasting analyses of the historical context of the war, particularly regarding US and Russian actions.
• The discussion of the Saudi Arabia talks and their potential implications for peace.
• The debate over the role and agency of Ukraine in the conflict and peace negotiations.
• The broader discussion of US foreign policy and its impact on the war in Ukraine.

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Fourteen facts about U.S. aid to Ukraine

Luke Coffey

Since Russia invaded Ukraine for the second time in eight years, Russian troops have ravaged Ukrainian cities, raped women, and kidnapped children. Russian missiles and Iranian drones strike Ukrainian cities daily, often hitting civilian targets. Russia is the aggressor. Ukraine is the victim. For Americans who believe in respect for national borders, the supremacy of national sovereignty and the right to self-defence, supporting Ukraine is natural. Ukrainians do not ask or want American troops to help them fight Russia. All they ask for are the resources necessary to give them a fighting chance. Meanwhile, Russia is one of America's main geopolitical adversaries. As former Secretary of State and Hudson University Distinguished Fellow Mike Pompeo said last week, a Russian victory "would be felt far beyond Ukraine's borders, including by strengthening the alliance of Russia, China and Iran, which is aimed at weakening the United States and our allies around the world." While Congress debates additional support for Ukraine, detractors will spread false and misleading information. It is important to understand the facts. Fact: The U.S. is not writing Ukraine "carte blanche" and most of the money allocated to help Ukraine never leaves the United States.

• Every dollar spent to support Ukraine is authorised by Congress and used for a specific purpose. There has never been "carte blanche" on Ukraine.
• Approximately $70 billion of aid earmarked for Ukraine will never leave the US. Instead, it supports our world-leading defence industry and creates well-paying jobs in 38 states.
• After seeing the effectiveness of U.S. military equipment in Ukraine, European countries alone have placed $90 billion in orders for U.S. military equipment. This makes America safer and creates good-paying jobs for Americans. Fact: For a relatively modest amount of money, U.S. aid is helping Ukraine dismantle Russia's armed forces without firing a single shot or shelling.
• Russia is a major geopolitical adversary of the United States and a close ally of China, Iran and North Korea.
• Estimates vary, but as many as 300,000 Russian troops have been killed or wounded in Ukraine. The original Russian invasion force has effectively ceased to exist since February 2022.
• Open source journalists have gathered visual evidence that Russia has lost more than 12,900 pieces of equipment in Ukraine by the time of this writing. Since this number is limited to visually confirmed losses, the actual number is likely much higher.
• These losses include: 2,439 main battle tanks, 1,026 armoured fighting vehicles, 2,977 infantry fighting vehicles, 368 armoured personnel carriers, 914 pieces of artillery, 201 multiple rocket launchers, 93 aircraft (including three strategic bombers), 132 helicopters and probably thousands of pieces of other military equipment.
• Ukraine has destroyed or damaged 16 ships and submarines, including the missile cruiser Moskva (formerly the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet) and the submarine Rostov-on-Don. Their destruction supports broader U.S. security objectives beyond the Black Sea. For example, Russia used both ships to support Bashar al-Assad in Syria. Fact: There has never been greater accountability for U.S. military assistance than for aid to Ukraine.
• Shortly after the Russian invasion, the U.S. government set up the Interagency Task Force to oversee Ukraine. More than 160 officials in 20 federal oversight agencies oversee U.S. assistance to Ukraine.
• To date, Congress has appropriated $50 million to the Inspectors General of the Department of Defence, Department of State and USAID to strengthen oversight through the working group.

Насправді їх економіка підходить до межі мілітарного розігріву. Далі почнеться стагнація і спад у валовому постачанні у війська. Вже нічого й говорити про життя всередині. Звісно, милиці Китаю дещо притримають в торговому плані. Та це не вирішить загальної проблеми

Зрозуміло, нам не просто. Але перепочинку і легітимізації зробленого - русні давати не можна. Вона вже скиглить просить, як може. Хуйло раз 12 публічно бідкався про заборону перемовин з нашої сторони.

Світанок буде.

Що ми можемо робити? Триматися і колос впаде. Підтримуйте сили оборони:

On behalf of the American people, I join millions of Ukrainians today in commemorating Defenders Day. We honor the heroes who have made the ultimate sacrifice, the veterans who have served your country, and those who continue to fight.

Ukrainian officials said at least 38 people, including 12 children, were wounded in a Russian missile strike that an officer said targeted a military funeral in the northeastern Kharkiv region.