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Is there a setting page on the lemmy instance where I can download all my data?

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I can set it up . This idea popped into my head after i joined some good foss telegram channels and i personnely think matrix is not there yet also telegram does supports third party apps there are some privacy concerns but i don't think it matters to our use case and it is all speculation but matrix instance hoster could be violating this too as most groups are not encrypted . I also do think telegram is just a better experience and more polished to use but i would advise you to download a third party app from fdroid instead of using the official client . So anyways lemmy know.

PS : I am in no way a telegram shill just thinks it is a good platform for this use case as mercurygram, fossify,telegram foss etc. hosts theirs there and it is really a good overall experience . Again not a SHILL.

EDIT : This was just an idea i had and if you disagree please comment so and i will not move forward ciao

EDIT : This was a for the community idea but if most of the community doesn't want it i will ofcourse not go forward but do write your thoughts in the comments as i don't know what you think by seeing the upvotes or downvotes (as some people do it accidentally by swiping or because they did'nt like something specific in the post which can be changed of you comment) and if there is anything i can do to make the experience better .

EDIT : Its all about options i am not proposing to move the community from matrix but just starting another one.

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This tab works like Subscribed only in reverse; it only shows stuff from comms you're not subscribed to. Perfect for finding new content to subscribe to without needing to sift through All.

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Kind of like how you can do [in-line links](to link people to a website), allow the user to use the same syntax to create contextual information that appears when the [user mouses over](Similar to alt-text on an image). This way users who know the context won't have to slog through a tedious wall of text while those who don't can optionally bring themselves up to speed. For clarity sake in-line context will be a different color to a link, and those on mobile (or desktop) can click it to expand out the contained text as if it was part of the original comment.

EDIT: it might be a good idea to potentially use different syntax so that you can link websites within in-line context.

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This article will describe how lemmy instance admins can purge images from pict-rs.

Nightmare on Lemmy St - A GDPR Horror Story
Nightmare on Lemmy Street (A Fediverse GDPR Horror Story)

This is (also) a horror story about accidentally uploading very sensitive data to Lemmy, and the (surprisingly) difficult task of deleting it.

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cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/5772572

The current state of moderation across various online communities, especially on platforms like Reddit, has been a topic of much debate and dissatisfaction. Users have voiced concerns over issues such as moderator rudeness, abuse, bias, and a failure to adhere to their own guidelines. Moreover, many communities suffer from a lack of active moderation, as moderators often disengage due to the overwhelming demands of what essentially amounts to an unpaid, full-time job. This has led to a reliance on automated moderation tools and restrictions on user actions, which can stifle community engagement and growth.

In light of these challenges, it's time to explore alternative models of community moderation that can distribute responsibilities more equitably among users, reduce moderator burnout, and improve overall community health. One promising approach is the implementation of a trust level system, similar to that used by Discourse. Such a system rewards users for positive contributions and active participation by gradually increasing their privileges and responsibilities within the community. This not only incentivizes constructive behavior but also allows for a more organic and scalable form of moderation.

Key features of a trust level system include:

  • Sandboxing New Users: Initially limiting the actions new users can take to prevent accidental harm to themselves or the community.
  • Gradual Privilege Escalation: Allowing users to earn more rights over time, such as the ability to post pictures, edit wikis, or moderate discussions, based on their contributions and behavior.
  • Federated Reputation: Considering the integration of federated reputation systems, where users can carry over their trust levels from one community to another, encouraging cross-community engagement and trust.

Implementing a trust level system could significantly alleviate the current strains on moderators and create a more welcoming and self-sustaining community environment. It encourages users to be more active and responsible members of their communities, knowing that their efforts will be recognized and rewarded. Moreover, it reduces the reliance on a small group of moderators, distributing moderation tasks across a wider base of engaged and trusted users.

For communities within the Fediverse, adopting a trust level system could mark a significant step forward in how we think about and manage online interactions. It offers a path toward more democratic and self-regulating communities, where moderation is not a burden shouldered by the few but a shared responsibility of the many.

As we continue to navigate the complexities of online community management, it's clear that innovative approaches like trust level systems could hold the key to creating more inclusive, respectful, and engaging spaces for everyone.

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Heads up for anyone running mlmym on their instance, your site is probably being used for google SEO manipulation: https://github.com/rystaf/mlmym/issues/101

If you're running an old version, update to v0.0.40!

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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/8431810

Not sure how feasible this would be, but my favourite Reddit app (Joey) has this feature.

It allows a user to "follow" an arbitrary post or comment and receive an notifications when new comments or replies are posted. E.g. "Post 'abc' has 9 new comments" or "Comment 'xyz' has 3 new replies".

Useful for keeping up with active threads which have gotten buried in the feed due to age, as well as cases of "I have that question too, and would love to know the answer if someone responds".

Anyway, thanks Bazsalanszky for an already great app! It is my current most-used Lemmy app.

I originally submitted this as an app feature request, but realized that it could also be implemented into Lemmy itself. Would anyone else find this feature useful?

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Or i just pissed off someone very dedicated .

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by silas@programming.dev to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
 
 

I see talk here and there about how any company or individual can easily use anything we post on Lemmy however they want. This could include AI training, behavior analysis, or user profiling. With the recent news of Reddit data being sold and licensed for AI training, I thought this would be a great time to preemptively discuss how we feel about this topic and brainstorm ways to discourage unwanted use of the content we post.

I’ve seen some users add a license to the end of each of their comments. One idea might be this: Add a feature to Lemmy where each user can choose a content license that applies to everything they post. For example, one user might choose to no rights for their content (like CC0) because they don’t care how their data is used. Another user might not want companies profiting off their posts, so they’d choose a more restrictive license.

I’m eager to here everyone’s thoughts on the whole topic, so to kick things off:

  1. Do you care how your public data and posted content is used? Why or why not?
  2. What do you think of choosing a content license for your Lemmy account? Does this contradict the FOSS model?
  3. Should Lemmy have features to protect user data/content in this way, or should that be left up to the user to figure out on their own?

Data is becoming an increasingly valuable commodity in the digital world. Hopefully these big-picture conversations can help us see what we value as a community and be more prepared for the future.

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The RFC PR is here: https://github.com/LemmyNet/rfcs/pull/6

Reposting RFC contents below:


Summary

Rather than combining all reports into a single report inbox, we should allow users to select whether they are reporting to mods or admins, and we should split reports into different inboxes based on that selection.

Motivation

The current approach has some shortcomings:

  • Users are not currently able to bypass mods and report directly to admins - this may allow mods to conceal instance rule breaking in specific communities
  • Admins are not aware of community rules, so they may wish to take no action for most community rule breaking reports. However, if an admin resolves such a report, the relevant community mods most likely never see it.
  • Different instances may have different rules, but somebody resolving a report on one instance will resolve it for other instances as well, thus potentially resulting in missed reports.
  • Mods might take local action on a report and mark it as resolved even in cases where a user should be banned from the entire instance. In this case, admins are very unlikely to see the report.

Guide-level explanation

When creating reports, users will be able to select if it's a mod report, or an admin report (or both)

image

Note: labels on the sreenshot are illustrative, actual labels can be more user-friendy. Maybe something like:

  • Breaks community rules (report sent to moderators)
  • Breaks instance rules (report sent to admins)

Instead of the current single report inbox, there will be three different kinds of inboxes

  • Admin reports - show all reports sent to admins (only visible to admins)
  • Mod reports - show all reports sent to mods for any communities the user moderates (visible to admins in case they are explicit mods in any communities)
    • This is equivalent to the report view that mods currently have in Lemmy already
  • All reports - Shows a view of all (admin and mod) reports, only visible to admins
    • This is akin to the current 0.19.3 admin report view, and would allow admins to still keep an eye on mod actions on their instance if they wish

The UI wouldn't need to change for mods, but for admins, there would be a new selection at the top of the reports page (the "mod reports" tab would only be visible if the admin is also a mod in any community): image

Resolving reports should be more granular

  • Reports in the "admin reports" tab can only be manually resolved for admins of the local instance
    • To reduce overhead, banning the reported user on the user's home instance + removing reported content should automatically resolve reports for remote admins as well.
  • Reports in the "mod reports" tab should be manually resolved by relevant mods (including admins, if they are explicit mods in the relevant community).
    • To reduce overhead, admins banning the reported user on the community instance OR the user's home instance + removing reported content should automatically resolve reports for mods as well
  • Admins could still resolve reports in the "all reports" tab
    • If it's not an admin report, and not a mod report from a community the admin explicitly moderates, then there should be an additional warning/confirmation when resolving a report here. This is to prevent cases of admins accidentally preventing mods from moderating according to their own community rules.

To further clarify automatic resolution of reports: in any case where there is no further action possible, the report should be automatically resolved.

Mods should be able to escalate reports to admins

This would generate a corresponding report in the admin inbox.

Reference-level explanation

  • In the UI, changes are needed for both reporting as well as the reports inbox views
  • In the database and API, we should split reports by intended audience
  • Federation needs to be changed as well in order to allow distinguishing the report target audience

Drawbacks

It might make reporting slightly more confusing for end users - the mod/admin distinction might not be fully clear to all.

Rationale and alternatives

Alternatively, we could make reporting even more granular. It would be possible to allow users to select only a specific instances admins as the intended report audience, for example. However, I think this has several downsides:

  • Makes the report UI even more confusing
  • Potentially takes away valuable information from other admins (imagine a user only reports CSAM to their own instances admins, while leaving the offending post authors home admins in the dark)

Prior art

Most other social networks allow users to select whether they are reporting a violation of community rules, or site rules as whole.

Unresolved questions

Does ActivityPub properly support splitting up reports like this?

Future possibilities

In the future, it might be a nice addition to have some automation to always escalate to admins, even if they're submitted as mod reports, based on report keywords. For example, "CSAM", "Spam", etc.

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Hi I made a Lemmy account specifically to save posts for future view.

To support the OPs, I opted to like instead of saving them as doing both is not ideal as I don't like to save every post, only some important ones.

But to my surprise, there is no way of viewing posts you liked/upvoted. Only saved posts appear in your profile.

This is in stark contrast to Reddit and even Mastodon which show both. I wonder if such a feature is in the pipeline or some way which exists to view them.

The best alternative is to just have lists support in Saved Posts like Instagram or Pinterest has.

Can any third party Lemmy clients do this? To be clear- I'd like to view posts I upvoted retrospectively and not from now on or something.

This is not a new request. I made this post to ask for things other requesters have not mentioned such as third party clients and comparision to Mastodon and Pinterest.

Also see these posts-

  1. https://lemmy.world/post/1565886
  2. https://lemmy.world/post/1440987
  3. https://lemmy.tedomum.net/post/82667
  4. https://lemmy.world/post/1624113
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I think this is something Lemmy should also consider. Open registration is an invitation to abuse an instance as a spam vector.

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From https://fediverse.observer/stats

Which seems to not at all come close to representing what you might actually see on Lemmy, not that Lemmy is tiny either.

Has there been any attempt to measure the total active Lemmy userbase? This would depend on the definition of Active but any working definition would be more useful than counting account creation. Something like "posted at least once this quarter".

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Hey (feddit.de)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by vine51@feddit.de to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
 
 

Hey I just joined Feddit it would be nice to meet someone and that’s all I got to say you can come to talk to me if you want

@BEND@kbin.social

byee

And also how do you make a account on Lemmy.ml I try and application never get approved

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We seem to be getting attacked. Different accounts from different instances are posting to random places on various instances in short succession.

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Hi folks, I wanted to feedback on my recent update to 0.19.3.

Since I host many services, I'm using docker for deployment, more precisely https://join-lemmy.org/docs/administration/install_docker.html.

Since I dont use ansible (yet), I had to replace most of the content of the compose file to make it work. So far this has been successful.

But updating atm is a great gamble which I'm not a fan of. Other services do this way better, especially when hosted in docker. I can even let them run in latest-mode and nothing ever breaks. Granted, they're far more mature than lemmy but I'd like to see a normal admin being able to host this so lemmy can grow.

My pain points are:

  • I would like to have the option to just use docker without manually putting together the compose file when not using ansible
  • pictrs breaks on every update since my server icon is a png and it for some reason says the picture is broken although I can upload and view it after. I need to delete the reference in my postgres database manually to get everything working again
  • I analyze the compose files every time I update to see if any changes need to be added to my version. This time, I stumbled across the lemmy container hostname. This didnt break the whole thing but sorting by anything didnt work anymore, neither did using voyager. Commenting out the hostname made everything work again.

The point I'm trying to make here is that we should have a working docker compose file for every update. Pros can still change everything they like. If there is a reason that we must use ansible please state the reason clearly in the documentation. I'm fine with doing so if there is a compelling reason.

Also, I use docker for years in production now and I would like to help if this is needed. Let me know if you're interested.

Have a good one.

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TL;DR:
Posting and voting is important, but with Active sort being the default across many instances, commenting is just as if not more important in helping surface various posts.


Although the instance I'm posting from hasn't updated yet, I've taken a look through other instances of the new sort options, and I think they're nice additions.

However, in doing so, and bouncing between different sorting options, I've noticed something pretty obvious but nonetheless worth recognizing imo. Since the default sort across many instances is Active, commenting feels like it has as much importance, if not maybe more, than voting alone.

You can find a number of posts here & there expressing some frustration at the state of content across Lemmy instances, and to a degree it's not unfounded; yet what's also helping surface much of the content exasperating others, and keeping it at the top, is much of the commenting to each of those posts. At least, under the Active sort setting, as that's basically its intended purpose (that is, to display posts with active conversations, not uh...surface stuff exhausting to some people).

I realize we can get around this individually by changing the default for ourselves (I personally tend to keep mine set to New), but I think it's worth considering from the outside looking in what kinds of posts we're surfacing and keeping at the top with our conversations. Posting a bunch of varied stuff is one thing, but if you see a post that catches your interest, it might be worth not just upvoting and moving on, but adding a comment here and there to try and help others see it.

Well, so long as the Active sort setting remains the standard across instances anyway.

By now I imagine many may take this as a given already, but I thought it worth noting considering some of the frustrated posts, and that I haven't really seen as much talk about the importance of commenting in relation to surfacing content under Active sort. That's part of why I keep my sort set to New and try to chip in comments to different posts without comments in different communities that catch my interest, even if they've already seen several votes.


TL;DR:
Posting and voting is important, but with Active sort being the default across many instances, commenting is just as if not more important in helping surface various posts.

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So I recently doomscrolled imaginarystarships, and saved a few posts I liked. When I wanted to revisit those I discovered that saved posts are sorted by when they were originally posted, not when I saved them, causing some of the older images I saved to be very far down the list. This is very annoying to deal with if you (like me) sometimes go on a saving spree regarding a specific topic and would like those saves to be logically grouped together.

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by iso@lemy.lol to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
 
 

I would like to introduce you to the tool I have developed in last 2 days.

As you know, when you create a new community on Lemmy, it is initially only available to your instance until users in other instances follows too. To fix this, this tool automatically follows the community from remote instances.

I have previously published a similar but simpler version at boost.lemy.lol and now I remade it because I didn't like some of its features. This time, instance admins will be able to strictly choose which instances they will allow or not. I'm open to your suggestions about different settings.

Please ask your instance admin to add their instance to this tool. To add it as an admin, all you have to do is log in and activate it from the settings.

https://lemmy-federate.com

Here's some tasks I'll implement in the future: https://github.com/ismailkarsli/lemmy-federate/issues

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cross-posted from: https://baraza.africa/post/1144422

The first commit was on Feb 14 2019. Amazing what @dessalines@lemmy.ml and the team have managed to build, attracting a great community along.

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My replies via Mastodon to Lemmy posts don't get distributed as expected. For example:

It seems my reply only shows in these Lemmy servers:

  • lemmy.ml (the server of the group to which the post was made)
  • lemmy.world (the server of the post's author)
  • ttrpg.network (the server of the comment's author)

From some other lemmy servers, my comment is not present:

I expected that my reply would show on any other Lemmy server with subscriptions to !privacy@lemmy.ml. Does that make sense? I'm hoping to help troubleshoot federation like this as I'm super excited about ActivityPub and what it means for the internet! :)

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Tiktok (feddit.de)
submitted 2 years ago by Silvay34@feddit.de to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
 
 

Post stuff about TikTok

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