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Good thread on America's Ukraine 2.0 attempt in Georgia. It's now threatening the families of Georgian politicians (twitter.com)
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[-] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 6 months ago

By the way, the 20% threshold of the Georgian Law is far more forgiving than the Foreign Agents Registration Act that applies in the US, which is way more broad and also more vague in its restrictions.

Also, it's like libs and Eurolickers have forgotten that we've just finished spending 5 years of US media and government agencies crying about the possibility that Russia "might have meddled" in their elections. Why are they decrying a country that is trying to prevent that from happening.

On a side note, a few days ago, the Georgian president came on stage during a military ceremony and addressed the troops, basically asking them to help her overthrow the prime minister. The prime minister came up on stage after her and outright called her a traitor.

[-] ksdhf@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 months ago

What's more is that the western media is calling it a "Russian law"

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Why tf do these Georgians think they would be a part of the EU? No one considers Georgia to be European unlike Ukraine.

[-] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 6 months ago

They have the world's highest concentration of "NGO's". One for every 148 citizens. There's a lot of money floating around that's untraced. The likes of Frau Genocide, Von Der Leyen, are making all kinds of promises to them, same as they did to the Ukrainians.

[-] Lemmykoopa@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 months ago

How is an ngo distinct from a normal business, or are they the same?

[-] Franfran2424@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 months ago

Often they dont need to declare profits or anything financial.

It's more like a private association than a private business.

[-] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 months ago

Non governmental organisation. They're usually privately funded, not businesses at all.

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 6 months ago

I really hope Georgia pulls through in this situation, it seems that so much is happening right now globally when it comes to western hegemony. As in, they’re escalating and scrambling more and more to stir up trouble because their hegemony is being threatened. I don’t know what this means for the world but it’s interesting to say the least. I still don’t understand why Georgians are freaking out about this but hopefully they come around. This doesn’t make sense…

[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 6 months ago

It makes as much sense as Hong-Kong people freaking out for a loophole fix for extradition towards Taiwan

Which means it's probably US meddling

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 6 months ago

Oh god, the Hong Kong protests. Honestly when they first happened, or at least when I became aware of them, I genuinely thought they were BLM protests because they were happening/being talked about at large at the same time as the protests in America. I saw many people talking about the Hong Kong protests but not about what it was about, so I just assumed it was related since people were drawing connections. Imagine my surprise when I found out people in Hong Kong were freaking out over the extradition of a fucking murderer. Egg on my face, but we live and learn.

But yeah, now that you’ve brought it up I definitely see the parallels. Both protesting over something so insignificant and inconsequential. In Georgia's case this piece of legislation would actually be a good thing, do they want foreign actors meddling in their affairs? If they’re scared of Moscow, wouldn’t this also apply to Russia?

[-] aqwxcvbnji@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

protesting over something so insignificant and inconsequential

Yes and no. The thing itself is small and inconsequential, but the subtext is a protest in favour of joining the EU and joining Schengen. The fact that relatively important EU-politicians are there to speech to the protesters makes that all the more clear.

(Imagine the opposite: like the head of the foreign affairs committe of Belarus talking to anti-governement-protsters in a EU-country. They'd be kicked out of the country immediatly and Belarus got themselves some extra sanctions.)

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 6 months ago

Loooong screenshot of the thread

[-] Yamimakai@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago

You know, we always hear how the DPRK kills you and generations of your family for smelling freedom scented cologne or whatever, but I feel like the only thing I see evidence targets "criminals" and their families are American sanctions.

[-] hex_work@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

Ty, I can't view twitter.

[-] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 6 months ago

Thanks. How do you do the long screenshots?

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 6 months ago

In firefox, if you press Ctrl+Shift+s, firefox lets you select the region you want to screenshot. The region can extend beyond the current view. I had to additionally use uBlock's element zapper to remove the navbar because otherwise it would appear somewhere in the screenshot and obscure a part of it. Not very elegant but since nitter has been nerfed it's the best I could do.

[-] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 months ago

That's a fantastic feature I was unaware of. Thanks!

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

Thanks, Twitter never shows me the whole thread.

[-] GlueBear@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 6 months ago

They're really trying to expand this war.

So with all the aid money the US gives to countries it's backing in wars, I have to ask:

Aren't they worried that too much of their money is in the hands of too many people? Like with all the billions that they keep giving to the likes of Ukraine, Taiwan, Israel, etc. Doesn't the dollar inflate and become less valuable in the world? They're just printing dollars atp, if I were a Ukrainian politician with a few hundred million in US $ I'd start using that to win favors in other countries that need US dollars to pay their debts.

Start my own lending service with all the money I have.

[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 6 months ago

The inflation caused by having more dollars around is spread all over the world, it's not like local currencies where printing more causes inflation only on the country in question.

[-] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What lorty says is true, and is infact the key reason why the American elite is so scared of dedollarisation. Dollar hegemony is the linchpin of the American empire.

[-] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 6 months ago

Aren’t they worried that too much of their money is in the hands of too many people?

As long as the dollar is the reserve currency of the world, and as long as oil is sold in dollars, they never have to worry about inflation. That is why the US is so furiously stepping on anybody who tries to change those two facts.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

Mostly it's money going to the MIC and weapons, etc. going to their vassals

[-] D61@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

So, its like, "I'm going to give you $10 so you can give my kid $8 to mow your lawn."

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That would be Ukraine 3.0 or Georgia 2.0, both those countries are regularily being meddled in.

[-] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Fair point.

[-] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Radio War Nerd did an interview with Georgian labor organizer Sopo Japaridze last year about that.

Episode 369, Interview starts at 34 minutes.

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