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[-] Godric@lemmy.world 83 points 8 months ago

People were shitty monsters before capitalism, and after too. People have been people regardless of economic system.

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 46 points 8 months ago

"Humanity is a disease" is not the same statement as "humanity is capable of committing atrocities" though. The latter leaves the door open for a "but", while the former makes humanity itself a systemic problem but refuses or "forgets" to pin the blame on anyone or any system.

Such statements devolve the conversation into defeatist pseudo-nihilism, where a "true nihilist" knows that the betterment of humanity will have to come from within.

I do agree that capitalism is not the root of all evil, but it is central to the particular "planet's fucked, housing is unaffordable, and no-one cares" doomer sentiment that is depicted in the meme (at least that is how I read it).

[-] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Society start to become unwell only when the few "monsters" get power, especially in a unbalanced way.

And yes some have and always will try to get it, but i don't think it's very relevant here...

Capitalism is a very powerful way for them to use our economic system to get their power, hence why it's a problem in itself.

And that's also why we could have hope for a system where they can't get power. Democracy is one solution, although limited, for example.

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[-] joenforcer@midwest.social 12 points 8 months ago

Sir, this is Lemmy. Everything bad past, present, and future is the fault of capitalism.

Oh yeah, everything bad is the fault of cars too. Almost forgot that one.

[-] Chestnut@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Some one on that "we need more sensitive men like in LOTR" post one of the top comments was about how men aren't like this because capitalism. I point out the absurdity of that message and get ratio'd

Its such an echo chamber

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[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 48 points 8 months ago

Hey sad person, my parents are super rich so I could afford to go to a fancy university that had a legit communist poli sci professor. That's where I learned how to talk to the poors. Which is what you are.

You see your problem is that you're poor because you didn't have rich parents like I did. No I'm not going to do anything to help you, I gotta get of the hair salon LOL. But now that you understand that you're unhappy because you're poor, that's going to make your life so much better! Ok, I've done my good deed for the day so I don't have to feel bad about having a trust fund. Gotta go, byeeeeee!

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 51 points 8 months ago

Tbf the fact that education requires money is also a problem of the system.

[-] LazyBane@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Everytime I think rich kids must feel bad for inequality, I remember how easy it is for them to cure their own guilt with the small platitudes of progressivism that won't at all effect the system that empowers them to our detriment.

[-] explodicle@local106.com 6 points 8 months ago

Joke's on you, I learned most of this stuff from Wikipedia.

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[-] taanegl@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

Finally, the Disney princess we need - the one that wants to burn down Disney.

[-] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago

I'd watch that

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

To bad fixing it costs resources that are largely hoarded and contrived by the people who profit off it being broken.

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[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago

Yummy, I love having class consciousness with my lunch

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[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

No it has nothing to do with my specific situation it has everything to do with looking at human history and realizing we've been destructive barbarous cunts the whole time.

We literally just act like we're not or ignore the obvious violence that has been constant on this planet.

And honestly it's not even just humans. Other animals are also incredibly violent and cruel. They just generally don't have the ability to know what their doing is cruel.

Like a monkey eating another animal alive because killing it takes more effort. Or a group of hyenas gnawing at the ass of an animal because it's the easiest part to chew through which results in the animal staying alive until it's about halfway eaten and dies of blood loss. Or the fact that a lot of animals can survive with mortal wounds for days just prolonging their suffering before their certain death.

Life is fucked all the way through.

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[-] actionJack@lemm.ee 20 points 8 months ago

I switched to lemm.ee partly to avoid the constant doomerism vibe in reddit. Unfortunate to see lots of lemmings here trying to keep the negative vibe tho.

Let's have a quick reality check: human civilization is young AF. We are cosmic toddlers. No need to throw in the towel just yet on our collective (and individual) ability to be/come more self-aware and ethical. Let the sample size grow, fam.

[-] Legonatic@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I am also not a fan of the doomerism. Feels harder to avoid here unfortunately

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[-] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 8 months ago

This fits the "leftist meme wall of text" archetype to a T

[-] Electric_Druid@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Based to the nth degree

[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago
[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

And if they truly are one, they won't see anything morally wrong with it. It would be on them for not being able to prevent it.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 15 points 8 months ago

I don’t think capitalism is responsible for humans being noisy and smelly.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 30 points 8 months ago

Noise and smell are natural parts of being human. Any social system that doesn't accommodate the existence of human physiology should not be used for humans.

In regards to noise and smell, open space offices and Amazon toilet breaks are prime examples of how capitalism have failed to accommodate for human physiology.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago

Okay but they’ll still be noisy and smelly.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 18 points 8 months ago

When you're stuck in traffic, remember, you are traffic.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Believe me, I know. The worst part about humanity is that I’m one of them.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That's probably true.

Unless they're playing music on the bus through their phone speaker,

or using some shitty body spray.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 8 months ago

The solution is always to watch the LOTR extended editions.

[-] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Damn I totally read all that shit. For sure

[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 11 points 8 months ago

You can be a bit of both sides, sometimes. Knowing the stuff on the right makes me feel the stuff on the left, if that makes sense. But not to such an extreme degree

[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 8 points 8 months ago

I had this little realisation the other day.

Was in the supermarket on a Friday morning, so it was mostly people in their late 60s+, all white folk, all looking bitter. Brexit as fuck Boomers, y’know? And I was going to shitpost about this on Mastodon, but it hit me that the opinion I’d formed was based on fuck all. I had no evidence that those people were what I’d ascribed to them.

Was quite a revelation.

[-] ma1w4re@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago
[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 months ago
[-] ma1w4re@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago
[-] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 months ago

People are generally awful as a rule. The current social climate simply exacerbates the issue.

[-] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Got damn banana, I told you I ain't got no tree FIDDY

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

It’s ultimately the people who didn’t do anything about being exploited. It’s us who are not furious with our “leaders” and it’s us who are littering and poisoning this planet. Yeah, capitalism is just a symptom

[-] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago

I'm not reading that

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

That class of people subjugating is larger than you think. With the stock market, line goes up is on all of us. Even those "just trying to build their retirement". The entire system must be torn down.

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