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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 91 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ah yes, NATO countries are famous for not invaring other countries to nstall shitty dictatorships.

Hey, how did Putin come to power agan? Something something US meddling with Soviet politics?

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 75 points 8 months ago

Hey, how did Putin come to power agan?

Communism. He's always been a Communist. Everything about Russia is Communist. We have been at war with the Communists since the start of Russia in 1914 as a Communist dictatorship. He's trying to take over the world and only we can stop him. The man's ambition knows no bounds.

So anyway, we're sending $40B in military aid to Pakistan in order to open up a border war with Iran to weaken Yemen and reclaim the Red Sea so we can retake West Africa from the Chinese and bring the Sub Saharan states to heel in order to cut off trade to Latin America and completely crush the anti-colonialist resistance that will free up lithium for our factories in Indonesian sweatshops.

And Russia could ruin all of that! They're out of control! They're megalomaniacs!

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 50 points 8 months ago

The Kurgan culture was communist. Russia has been Communist since 20,000 BCE.

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 43 points 8 months ago

Vladimir Lenin, Tsar of Communism, circa 1050 BCE:

[-] huf@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago

well, it is the immortal science, isnt it?

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

There can be only one, after all

[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

I would help this guy carry his drums into the venue

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

Heads may roll if you don't

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[-] funky_tomatoe@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 8 months ago

Everything about Russia is Communist. We have been at war with the Communists since the start of Russia in 1914 as a Communist dictatorship. He’s trying to take over the world and only we can stop him. The man’s ambition knows no bounds.

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/putin-the-marxist-leninist

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Former Distinguished Fellow in Conservative Thought

Computer, generate an absolute bullshit academic title

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[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 72 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

LIBs: "I don't like capitalist Russia!"

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

Russia isn’t capitalist. It’s Soviet Oligarichist Putinist

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

"That just sounds like capitalism with extra steps"

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 8 months ago

Chomsky moment

[-] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 36 points 8 months ago

'Enfreedomfication'

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 67 points 8 months ago

I know libs struggle with the concepts of "the passage of linear time" and "cause and effect" but this is ridiculous.

[-] jaeme@hexbear.net 65 points 8 months ago

History started in 2022 and you putler tankies can't say otherwise.

Ukraine will fight till its last man, woman and child for freeeeeedoooommmmm.

"Slave Ukraini"

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 64 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ukraine can try all the gaslighting they want, but the true fact is that Ukrainian neo-nazis invaded Donbass. Not Russia. They don't like the war. They should respect people's right to self determination and leave

Plus, the only reason Russia intervened is because NATO is a shitty neighbor. They should try being less imperialist. Oh and not overthrow elected governments and fund neo nazi gangs. Pretty easy

[-] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 7 months ago

The version based on facts.

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 64 points 8 months ago

Remember, tankie - russia is an empire, nato is a small bean defensive alliance that has never done anything.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 31 points 8 months ago

RuZZia has an economy smaller than Italy, which is why we must encircle it with the world's biggest military alliance.

[-] JuryNullification@hexbear.net 31 points 8 months ago

*that has never done anything defensive

[-] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 7 months ago

UWU 4th reich smol bean

[-] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 56 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They should try and not invade countries you say? You love NATO too? mari-smug

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 51 points 8 months ago

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization is expanding to meet the expanding needs of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization

— Oscar Wilde, probably

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 51 points 8 months ago

The rationale of "well HE attacked first! so any former and further arguments are nullified!" is baby brain shit. I want to insult it by calling it liberalism, but I'm struggling to force the triangle into the square on that one. I really want to though.

It's the same bullshit right wingers, including liberals of course, have played with the DPRK since the war. The US and its puppets were very obviously and clearly escalating with intent to invade the north and forcefully put down the communist forces led by Kim. But they knew invasion was a bad look, so they took that classic Roman tactic of push and push and push until your enemy finally says "fuck it" and attacks first so you get to say "wow! he attacked! that's bad! hey everyone, this Kim guy is bad!" then anything goes and you can justify all kinds of insanity.

Unlike Kim though (whose "invasion" (unification attempt) I support) I don't really support Putin's actions. But to dismiss the very clear and obvious history of NATO and what it's been doing to the USSR and now Russia is so dishonest and playing into the same tired, shitty playbook.

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago

It IS liberalism. It ignores the material conditions leading to the conflict and reduces it to a mere question of who started - allowing the liberal to feel like they have the moral high ground and therefore allow any and all possible response, no matter the consequences. After all, the material reality doesn't matter, only how the already existing can be made to fit into the ideal they want - even if it is, as you said, forcing the triangle into the square.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 46 points 8 months ago

Dictatorship? Wym, we made them free in 1991. We made them just like us. You're welcome.

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 42 points 8 months ago

EU is so democratic, look at Greece and what they did to the country.

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 40 points 8 months ago

Nato is also democratic, don't look at what spain, portugal, greece, italy and turkey got up to "to their own people" in the 50s-80s.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago

Greece invented Democracy so anything that happens there must be democratic

[-] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 31 points 8 months ago

NATO should expand to the seabed, by bombing the uk so hard it somehow sinks beneath the waves

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 30 points 8 months ago
[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 8 months ago

2022 Poland peacekeeping Buildup of NATO forces in respose to Russia's build-up of forces on Ukraine border

Chef's kiss. Polish anticommunists call presence of Soviet forces in Poland "invasion" and "occupation", so what else is this by their own logic.

[-] Cummunism@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago

every dead Ukrainian conscript means more money for Z. And more cocaine.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago

Jesus libs still with the brilliant military analysis of "Russia should give up on their 2 year military operation that they're winning because an American liberal said so"

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[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 8 months ago

I want all anglo NATOids put on pikes and paraded before the global proletariat as a warning to the next set of would-be reactionaries negl

[-] DyingOfDeBordom@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

The NATO expands to meet the needs of the expanding NATO

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[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 8 months ago

NATO must expand because I just shoved a bicycle pump down it's throat and started pumping rapidly.

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