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[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 122 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nah I'm good. I don't want a klanborghini from him.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh I like this. The Swastikar Deplorean is joined by the Swastikar Klanborghini.

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[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 61 points 4 days ago (4 children)

No, we need more rail. Enough with cars.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] 13igtyme@startrek.website 11 points 4 days ago

I'd take more Heavy rail, light rail, bike lanes, better city layouts, AND cheap electric cars.

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[–] sheetzoos@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago
[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 69 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)
[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 78 points 5 days ago (4 children)

You see, Europeans cannot have the Cybertruck. Americans cannot have the R5. I can live with that, but then, I am European.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

They also won't sell it in Australia

Europe's loss really though, euro cars sell well here but since you refuse to sell us the EV versions, China is already taking over and Euro cars are already on the back foot, I don't think they'll ever gain the marketshare they had either.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I am not Renault. I have no idea why they are not selling it in the US or Australia. It is very well possible that they already have given up Australia against the Chinese. The "Made in Europe" argument certainly has less weight there than in Europe. Like I said, I am not sitting in the strategy meetings of Renault but if I had to guess they are choosing their retreat battles already.

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[–] blackshirt@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago
[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 36 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

I walked past a Tesla showroom recently and they had one car on the floor that they still sell, one that they haven't sold in decades, a frame to a car that's out of production, and a robot they still don't produce. They used to have more cars out then they stopped producing them. The stock is still high somehow.

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[–] myyass@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I've wrote this before and I'll write it again. Conversion kits need to become mainstream. It's like my old Jeep can have pretty much any engine. Someone converted theirs with using parts from a junk yard Tesla.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

as battery tech improves and electric motors become more powerful and ubiquitous it'll happen. there's a small market of people converting classic cars to ev. one day I'd like to convert my old honda element. I don't need 300 miles range, give me 80 and it'll be fine for grabbing lumber or taking junk to the dump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53ZV1GMrf50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqcHIQmWgIs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d53aNHMMai0

and a host of companies trying to cater to the market -

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/T4WWHvZODz4

dig around and there's a lot more. there's a lot of rolling stock that can be swapped eventually, it would be stupid to condemn all that metal to scrap.

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[–] axh@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, because poor people won't pay in advance for a car that is "coming next year" (~~2021~~, ~~2022~~, ~~2023~~, ~~2024~~, ~~2025~~, ~~2026~~, 2027...?)

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 15 points 5 days ago (3 children)

They said it's coming out on 2028 this time, so maybe this time instead of "next year" it would be "2 years later".

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (13 children)

I bought a used 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5 for $25k. 30k miles. I know its still not cheap, but the ask the batteries have a 100k+ warranty.

77kW 220-280 miles at 100% (though I rarely go beyond 90% for battery life). 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, all wheel drive, CCS charger with NACS adapters available. Tesla chargers max at 96kW just fyi, idk why. But a lot of quick chargers work better, there's 2 65xkW, 4x180kW near me. There's a 4x375kW and a 4x400kW on a regular distance trip I take. Those are stupid fast charging.

A standard 120v is 1.4kW max, and it works out to about 10%/11hrs. A 240v is much better (i can't remember maybe its like 10kW) charges fully in about 8 hours.

Kia and Hyundai are awesome EVs. I've heard good things about Subaru's. The Chevy Bolt I've heard less good about. Toyota's EVs are disappointing. Avoid Polestar - they aren't allowed to sell in the US anymore anyway, but the car has a fancy interior and is fun to drive until the AC stops working. And it's got weird software license gates for hardware it has.

Also don't find reasons to funnel money to Musk.

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[–] Sequentialsilence@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Here’s the thing everyone seems to be forgetting. Once a motorized vehicle leaves the ground under powered flight it is no longer under DOT’s domain it is now under FAA’s domain. FAA licenses are way harder to get and way easier to lose. They also require annual tests to keep. This is why flying cars are a non starter, because to pilot them you need a general aviation license.

There are exceptions but it’s always in the ultralight or experimental categories. A release of this car will fit neither of those categories.

[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Yeah this car will never be for sale. There will be the $50,000 version which has none of the compressed air loaded into it, and a tuned up version with some boost for the 0-60. The flying car they showed yesterday was the only one that will ever do that, because it was a literal stunt for the shareholders.

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[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Even funnier, you're generally not allowed to land on roads so once you take off you have a problem with that flying car. Debris flying around will also be fun.

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[–] Hegar@fedia.io 39 points 5 days ago (24 children)

I visited a friend in australia who can finally afford a brand new car on a funeral assistant's wage because of how cheap chinese EVs are. Even has in-seat massagers.

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[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

I don't honestly think the US has the technical ability anymore. The US doesn't really make much and hasn't since the seventies. That's a long time. How much of a Ford is actually made in the US? Shoot, how much is designed in the US?

Best they could do would be buy the parts, maybe make the frame, paint it and assemble. Don't make batteries, don't make screens, or chips, or leds or much of nothing.

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 24 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I just want public transit...

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Here you go:

Oh, did you mean in the US?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I would ride this just to ride this

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[–] Donk240978@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 days ago

There won't be flying cars until Autonomous Vehicles have a perfect self driving score.

Joe Average Potata-brain can't drive as it is. Now they want to add the extra chaos of multiple tons of debris falling from the sky after minor crash bends one of the stabilizer ports out of alignment?

[–] funkreddit@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago

Lmao Bollywood type shit for the plebs

[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 15 points 5 days ago (10 children)

No shit. I feel like this company has enough money they could produce a $10k Electric car that is basically sold at cost.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Tesla refuses to even develop a compact 20k car they could sell at a profit. Instead the new developments focus on wankpanzers and sports cars with party tricks.

[–] MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I think it's because they know they can't compete with quality or specs at the low end. They'd much rather get customers with gimmicks and "controversial" aesthetics. Chinese cars would eat anything they could build for that price for breakfast but even legacy brands like Hyundai and VW have been able to make good EVs far cheaper than Tesla.

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[–] FishFace@piefed.social 22 points 5 days ago (38 children)

Batteries are expensive. Tesla had the best value EV for a long time until alternatives with real buttons and no nazis came along so this is a weird one.

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[–] keyez@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm probably gonna get an Ioniq 6 or 5 in a year or two, those are very affordable and have actual buttons and switches.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

I'm still a little salty about my experience trying to test drive a used Ioniq 6. It was on the site for like $23k I think. I reserved it and then got an email saying that they'd already sold it, but they have a new one available to see for like $55k. I like my Bolt EUV a lot, but Ioniq 6 was my first choice, and I've since only discovered more reasons to be envious lol. My 50kW level 3 charging is incredibly sluggish compared to the 300ish that they can do, even if it's rare for me to have to use it at all.

I have a lot of buttons and switches, but I have to tap the screen to select and deselect HVAC vents. That's annoying while driving. There's a button for max defog, but I don't want to keep cycling that on and off. Just give me a damn knob.

[–] Undoobitably@fedinsfw.app 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Go get a used Chevy Bolt or Nissan Leaf. Tesla ain't the only EV in the US.

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[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 22 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Was anyone driving that car or was it just a remote controlled shell with compressed air thrusters?

[–] Madagaskar_sky@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Remote control (EDIT: Pre-scripted, no driver. Think Boston Dynamics dance videos). Imagine the shitshow if there was someone there and the Cybertruck-reveal level of preparedness played out on live broadcast.

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[–] OriginalTangle@feddit.org 16 points 5 days ago

Car sizes will continue to increase until morale improves.

[–] arak@lemmy.today 15 points 5 days ago

USA bans affordable EVs, no Chinese EVs even though iPhones are made in China https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czx17361pw1o

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Business idea: Very cheap electric city car with low range, but standardised commodity batteries you can rent for long journeys.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Making batteries exchangeable adds a lot of costs and overhead. The battery changing infrastructure is even a greater nightmare. Nio tried it and failed. With batteries getting better and better, this concept also is getting less and less feasible. It is really easier and cheaper to expand infrastructure of long range EV renting. That said, in Europe taking the train and renting an EV at the destination (range is not much of an issue then either) is probably the more relaxed option anyway, if a car is needed at all.

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