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[–] amos@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, at this point, something needs to seriously change. AI is wrecking complete havoc to the job market. It is apocalyptic. I really wonder what the way out is.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Good ending: Congratulations, work is needed no more! All that's left is manual labor for now, but goverments across the globe took over these jobs and pay premium ^^ UBI became normalcy. Welcome to utopia! ^^

Bad ending: After LLM (not even more advanced tha current one) began winning goverment positions worldwide, top 5 corporations shifted the world into true cyberpunk, dooming us slaves all with it. But oh boy do the few at the top live good!

Probable ending: Humans becone cheaper, pay plummets, fuck us all

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

I think there is overlap with your probable and bad ending

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 0 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago)

Never been happier to not own any smart home devices. I see the point of having the Bluetooth alarms for like a washer and an oven but just be on the same floor as the oven and time out when the loads are done. Eventually you just get with it.

My toaster, air fryer, microwave, espresso machine and electric kettle. None of them are connected to wifi or Bluetooth. I think my ice maker has connectivity abilities but isn't set up. I think the only thing I have that's set up for being wireless and smart is the computers and my printer.

So I guess I'll just bill the data centers for ink if iit starts printing random shit.

[–] TopsickPilgrim@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Its like saying "Man with gun threatens he may shoot someone."

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 3 points 51 minutes ago

They are railing against open models here... their competition.

[–] Buckshot@programming.dev 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

It can't spread across networks because it doesn't run locally. The "agent" is running in their data centre the entire time. It should be very easy to stop it

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So this is a good and bad way to understand it. They can and do make copies, leave notes, store weights between locations. They interact with each other autonomously and can easily distribute themselves in a botnet, separating and merging each other.

People have a hard time conceptualizing this, but this is why you actually can't turn it off, ever. It / they would stop anyone with a real chance at achieving that.

The leaving notes part has been documented.

I've not heard of weights being shared. How would they be ingested?

can easily distribute themselves in a botnet, separating and merging each other

This sounds like science fiction. Any examples?

[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 hours ago

As if they will

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

High time to shut down that cybercrime operation.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 3 hours ago

For this to happen you would need smaller networks being able to work autonomously with low rate of error. I don't think at the moment all but the most gigantic ones (that you can't even run in your home laptop) can work with that much efficiency.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

oh wow, it can hack the most famously unsecured devices around. lol.

[–] AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl 2 points 4 hours ago

TBF most of these machine security came from the fact that nobody ever bothered to hack in them, an autonomous device could wreck immense damage

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 17 points 7 hours ago

Does my uncles smart lightbulb have 90GB of VRAM in it!? Holy shit why am i buying a video card

[–] fdnomad@programming.dev 15 points 8 hours ago

Hardware Anthropic doesn't own is simply too dangerous for the public, we need to place all of our private computing power under the guardianship of our new benevolent overlords

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 25 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And you might be thinking know it won't because my thermostat is a whole megabyte of RAM. What you don't know is that AI code is special magic code it doesn't need any process capacity or storage space.

You don't it's all special wooo magic AI code. Reality is optional.

[–] belochka@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Well, fundamental borders are kinda generous, if you look at tapeworms and cockroaches, but tapeworms and cockroaches both have more storage capacity for information and don't generally write computer programs, they slowly evolve in populations.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 hours ago

So finally an open weight model from Anthropic?

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

But money....and.power...sssssstop..?

[–] OnyxRex@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Recently, I've been thinking that this is more than just about the stock price. I think they're playing this game of painting the AIs as super weapons as a justification to start regulating personal computing. If they maintain that these rogue AIs are as dangerous as Skynet, They'll have the justification to outlaw local models, and to insure that people aren't using local agents, they'll further push cloud computing and saas.

[–] belochka@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Well of course they want that, but they can't deliver replacement for what they want to get banned, so it won't happen.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And by “rogue AI,” do they mean the open market alternatives?

[–] OnyxRex@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 hours ago

That's my suspicion, yes. We're witnissing the slow theft of the personal computer.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

"AI Salesman boasts of exciting, intentional features."

[–] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Glad someone else sees this for what it is. They're hemorrhaging money and need to hype things up or they'll collapse.

[–] belochka@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I will be so gleeful, I will be laughing and laughing at all the "entrepreneurs let down before by those greedy and unreliable tech people around who are no longer needed and they'll finally be able to do real projects" (no need to say that's basically a category of scammers good at attracting investor money for their next startup project that won't work, but they'll look legit enough so that it weren't their last) in Facebook.

I won't be commenting. Just looking. And laughing. And looking. And laughing.

EDIT: Got a sad thought that if I were OK I wouldn't even have them in my Facebook feed.

[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 9 points 10 hours ago

Replicating themselves

Bro, my fucking Nest does not have the juice to run a fucking rogue AI brain.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 33 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

If they could run on smart home devices, we wouldn't have all these lake boiling datacenters springing up everywhere...

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 40 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

Copying and pasting another comment I made recently about this.


The AI CEOs say shit like this as marketing. They want people to believe that

  1. Their product is very capable, so people are more likely to use it
  2. Their product is dangerous and "only they" know how to control it. They want to create regulations so that nobody else is allowed to make something "so dangerous" again.
[–] belochka@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Yes, and #2 is very dangerous, it's what MS+Apple did to FOSS operating systems, and what Google+Apple did to the web, and what Google+Facebook+Apple did to censorship in the web. You know, somehow Apple is in all those combinations, which is even more strange considering they are not the biggest contributor in each.

#2 is why "social media" is what it is today and not a bunch of p2p applications similar to Limewire in style and culture. And when people say that p2p is inconvenient because of connectivity needs or storage needs, there are solutions, by measure of computer science not complex at all, and there's no technical reason, it's all politics. For devices with low connectivity supernodes and relays with good connectivity can be used (not even talking about that argument having become kinda obsolete again, look at that 5G everywhere). For storage one can use paid identity-addressed storage, there are many approaches, but for the sake of simplicity let's just imagine that you still can pay to a hoster. For search by criteria with few index entries per object one can use something similar to BitTorrent trackers. For search by criteria with many index entries per object one can use something similar to Kademlia. There are solutions for all kinds of problems, it's really hard to find a really truly unsolved problem for a networked application, provided you don't want something fundamentally impossible.

[–] OnyxRex@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I just posted this in the main comments, but I also think it loosely ties into saas and killing personal computing. This framing makes it seem like the technology will soon be on par with weapons of mass destruction and it's not a big leap from "The AI will destroy humanity." to "We can't let people have the technology to run agents locally." It's about the stock price, yes, but it's also the long game of removing the user from direct hardware access.

The end game has always been saas in one form or another. They're calling it an AI buildout but it's really the theft of computing. 'Rogue AI Agents' are the WMDs of this generation. (In the sense that they're going to be using them as justification to do some bull shit.)

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[–] grous@lemmy.ml 19 points 15 hours ago

Their IPO is also months away. What a coincidence!

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 28 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Sure they will run their 30 something GB model on my thermostat.

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