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[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 2 points 24 minutes ago

I’m not paying a cancellation fee, that’s on you if you are refusing the trip.

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Uh, I know people in Houston (the most car dependent major city in the US) who would call an uber to cross the street because it's so fucking hot in the summer you would need to change your suit if you tried the trip on foot.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Also the street is probably a 14-lane highway.

[–] Devial@lemmy.world 26 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

tbf, in many places in America walking a couple blocks is a legitimately bad and dangerous idea, especially for kids, because pedestrian/non-car infrastructure and safety is so dog shit

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

I'm a school bus driver and we have an insane number of kids that get transported less than half a mile, solely because we lack sidewalks and drivers here are batshit crazy.

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Thinking back to my youth when it was just endless sprawl of houses with no side walks or even street lights… I walked around in that “neighborhood” a lot and it always felt scary and unsafe, if rideshare had been a thing back then (and I wasn’t too poor to afford it which I definitely would have been) I would have liked the option to stay off the narrow gravel road shoulders with drivers passing by me at 45-50mph

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 74 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

From Uber’s driver help page:

If you suspect a rider is underage

  • Politely ask them to show a driver’s license or ID card to confirm their age.
  • You have the option to cancel the trip if you believe the rider is underage (Select unaccompanied minor as the cancellation reason and potentially receive a cancellation fee).

They apparently do have Teen rides now but only through a connected account and only in a few cities. I would assume Lyft has similar policies.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 45 seconds ago

it's an insane risk. I work for transportation in k-12 and I would never transport kids without several feet of paperwork, it's difficult even with that. you have to have a lot of policies about what to do if and when anything happens, they won't get out, they have a medical emergency, they refuse to use a seat belt, they scream racial slurs, they start a journey of self discovery, they hit their head on hard objects for fun, they punch windows aggressively while screaming, they report criminal acts of themselves or others, they light up a Jay, they start discovering others, they forcefully insist on discovering others without consent, and so on. unaccompanied minors are a nightmare just in terms of liability and crisis management.

[–] 13igtyme@startrek.website 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't know the details, but Lyft has teen, pink, and silver.

[–] filcuk@feddit.uk 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Teen is obvious, silver I assume refers to middle-aged and above, but pink? Are we transporting babies straight from the womb?

[–] Rodrios@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Woman riders who prefer a woman drivefr

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 15 points 12 hours ago

I wonder if the parent could've just accompanied them and returned in the same Uber, it's not even a new ride back

[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 61 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This country is such a backwards shit hole. People are afraid to let their kids walk a few blocks, on a route they're familiar with, cause some asshole may try and call DCFS on them.

Meanwhile there are more fucking cameras deployed in public than in any time in human history, and they have the capability to network together and track people and relay information to police, emt's, for fire departments, etc all in real time... But we don't use it to help make people safer, or give them peace of mind, or allow their kids to play and be free.

That should tell you everything about the real intentions of all this surveillance bullshit.

It's not here to keep the slaves safe. It's here to keep them in line

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Those few blocks may be constructed in such a way that they'd be walking in the road with traffic whizzing around them. If there ever was a sidewalk it's been removed to add another lane for cars.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

💯 it could be a couple of blocks of six lane highway lite suburban hellscape and not a couple of blocks of residential roads.

...But if it was residential roads then lol

[–] BeelzebubEiNukuKoskaan@piefed.social 79 points 14 hours ago (12 children)

Seeing posts like this makes me realise how lucky I am to have been born in a country with sane pedestrian infrastructure and generally safe environment.

I found it funny when I watched a video titled "10 most surprising things about Finland" and one of them was about how kids just walk about in the city, on their own. I was confused as to why that is so shocking but then I remembered that North America has sort of forgot about using legs as a mode of transport.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 hours ago

There is a wonderful moment in back to the future 3 where doc gets drunk and starts describing the car-centric future to the people of the old west.

Old timer: why, does anyone still walk or run?

Doc Brown: only for recreation

[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

This is completely crazy. Land of the free.

"Authorities said they would drop the charge against Patterson if she signs a safety plan that involves the use of a GPS tracker on her son's phone but Patterson told ABC News she is refusing to sign it.

"I just felt like I couldn't sign that and that in doing so, would be agreeing that there was something unsafe about my home or something unsafe about my parental decisions and I just don't believe that," Patterson said.

Patterson, who is currently out on bail, faces up to 1 year in jail with the reckless conduct charge."

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

America does not want children to exist, yet perpetually laments that children never go outside to play anymore.

and they lament that while not building playgrounds where young children can socialize and play, while destroying third spaces to hang out and socialize in for teenagers, and.. most egregious of all, when they finally do go outside, calling the cops on them for a variety of made up reasons regardless of their age. Especially if their tan is a shade too dark.

[–] BeelzebubEiNukuKoskaan@piefed.social 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

lol.

Some time ago I picked up my 10 year old niece from the train station. She first walked 3km to a bus stop, then went 15km with the bus to the train station, then 180km to where I picked her up and drove to my parents. Only reason I picked her up was because she didn't know what buses to use etc. After that, my mum showed her how the buses work and which ones to use etc so ever since that, she's been doing the trip completely own her own.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (7 children)

it helps you have functional public infrastructure.

America? Not so much. It can take hours to get somewhere outside of like new york or chicago, where it takes a care maybe 20-30 minutes to get to. and I know this for a fact, because I've tried to take the bus on numerous occasions, and found it to be faster to walk unless you luck out and happen to have your destination on the same bus route you got on with no transfers.

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[–] Wfh@lemmy.zip 30 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

North America has sort of forgot about using legs as a mode of transport.

If they remember to use them a moron in a lifted emotional-support-pickup-truck will break every bone in their body at the first intersection. And get away with it. North American city design is not just car-centric, it's actively human-hostile. Giant stroads, no sidewalks, no bike lanes....

[–] StankStain@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

i regularly cross a dangerous intersection and have to veep my head on a swivel because the only thing between me and a huge suv or truck is a curb

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

I was walking myself from an inner suburb to dowtnown of a mid sized town in the US, maybe 3 km or so. Except for the part of the highway bridge which was positively dangerous, it was a pleasant walk. Locals considered us as crazy lunatics and the only reason they probably did not send us to an asylum was because we were Europeans and they do that crazy stuff like walking all the time.

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 129 points 18 hours ago (14 children)

Sometimes people exaggerate tremendously about "a couple of blocks" in my experience. And it could also involve crossing some very busy intersections.

Or this person is just a moron, that's also an option.

[–] troybot@piefed.social 41 points 15 hours ago (39 children)

There are lots of people who don't realize the word "couple" means two. Like they ask me for a couple of something and I give them exactly two and then they are confused because they expected several more.

[–] TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

When I was a kid, I needed clarification on these weasel words. My dad told me, a couple is two or three, but not one. One is always one. Four to six is a few, and seven or more is several, and you can remember that because several sounds like seven.

So, that's always been it for me. If you ask me for a couple you'll probably get two, but maybe three. You'll get five or six if you ask for a few, and you'll get seven if you ask for several. My dad an I were a lot alike.

Also, a "handful" is either five, because five fingers, of course, or however many I can grab with one hand, if it's candy or something.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 8 points 8 hours ago

They confuse it with "few"

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 hours ago

lol I was one such person when I was younger.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

So...

A) This woman doesn't trust her children to walk a couple blocks on their own, but does trust a complete stranger to pick them up in their car instead... A+ parenting.

B) I 1000% percent get that driver's hard line here. Best case scenario, you get a couple bucks for carrying some well behaved kids down the street. But the possible worse cases include kids who can't answer questions or follow instructions making your job harder, unruly children damaging your vehicle (and being forced into a position where you need to control a child that is both a stranger and your client), people seeing you pick up unattended children and calling the police, the child making a SA or other legal claim about you and immediately ending your Uber gig while threatening your livlihood and freedom... not worth the risk.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 12 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

A. There are definitely neighborhoods where this could be the case. Living in such a neighborhood probably means parent is working odd hours and has to make some parenting compromises. I think it's way too easy to pass judgment on parents - it's got to be a monumental task esp in poverty.

What's abhorennt is trying to get a worker to break policy that could jepordize their job and being really rude about it too.

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