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I was banned for supporting the right of people in eastern Ukraine for not wishing to be part of the state banning their language and doing g pogroms not just against Russians bot Jews and Roma people for 12 years prior to the Russian intervention.
Tanuki was banned just for posting a video of civilians being kidnapped off the street to be forced into a war they know is a lost cause.
If this is what you call Anarchism I am ashamed of you.
YDI and they did too. Not sorry.
Since there is no link to the original thread, judgement can only be made based on the screenshot; and if Tanuki was banned for his post, this is 100% undisputable PTB.
However, I dislike how Tanuki portrays Ukrainians as silent victims of forced mobilization carried out by their government. In reality, recent years have seen hundreds of examples of spontaneous self-organization and collective self-defense, when ordinary passersby have rescued detained conscripts from conscription officers, using fists, clubs, pepper spray, knives and even firearms, overturning buses, and so on.
Also this community !ukrainerussiareport@lemmy.ml has dozens of videos of real anarchy in Ukraine and popular anti-state resistance. Just a few of them:
However, I dislike how Tanuki portrays Ukrainians as silent victims of forced mobilization carried out by their government. In reality, recent years have seen hundreds of examples of spontaneous self-organization and collective self-defense, when ordinary passersby have rescued detained conscripts from conscription officers, using fists, clubs, pepper spray, knives and even firearms, overturning buses, and so on.
They are not silent, the problem is that the western news that the likes of unruffled and so many take as given truth, continues to ignore and silence those voices, notice how not a single one of your links about those things is a US news outlet?
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I regret nothing. And how is being opposed to a Russian war of aggression being pro-State? I don't accept your framing of the situation.
Pro Ukrainian state. It's quite clear. And the "Russian aggression" only began after over a decade of people in Donbas having their own attempts at self determination met with brutal retaliation and repression.
Gotta have some real tortured logic to say "free state of Ukraine" follow it up with the Banderite slogan "slava Ukraini" and then pretend not to be throwing in pn the side profile the fascists.
Also my accusations of antisemitism are not "thinly veiled" I am literally telling you that since 2014 Azov and other elements of Ukrainian state forces have literally doing pogroms against not just ethnic Russians in the east, but Roma and Jews all over the country for over 12 years now. If you deny it, I just assume you're a fascist.
Also Unruffled you have a very long history of fascist apologizing so you really are only helping prove my point here.
slava Ukraini
In all the time I've known @flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com, I don't recall ever hearing them utter a pro-Ukrainian slogan of any kind. This is just utter nonsense and an outright lie.
They have to lie about Unruffled because they have nothing else.
Pro Ukrainian state. It’s quite clear.
Pro the invaded is another way of looking at it.
Gotta have some real tortured logic to say “free state of Ukraine” follow it up with the Banderite slogan “slava Ukraini” and then pretend not to be throwing in pn the side profile the fascists.
What are you even talking about?
Also my accusations of antisemitism are not “thinly veiled”
I think you are replying to the wrong person.
Also Unruffled you have a very long history of fascist apologizing
Yes I'm a huge fascist, you caught me!
Pro the invaded is another way of looking at it.
This implies that the universe somehow spontaneously came into being the day Russian forces entered Ukraine.
They were in a civil war... Do you think that if a civil war broke out in Mexico that the US would have been there WAY sooner than Russia did in this case?
The Civil war in Ukraine started with Crimea wanting to leave because of the rapid Nazification of the Ukrainian government. That is why they overwhelmingly voted on a referendum to separate and the only way to do so without being genocided was to join the RF.
Then the Nazi faction of the Ukrainian right basically consolidated power and kept doing pogroms and indiscriminately shelling the east as Donbas followed suit. This only escalated the conflict and proved that there was a re-emergence of the Banderite movement that collaborated with the Nazis in WWII. The slogan "Slava Ukaraini" was one of their most known chants.
I am not Pro-Russia. I recognize the right of self determination of all people, and that does not put me in a position to criticize them when they can take support from whoever possible in the face of Nazism and Imperialism.
I do not criticize Iran for being aligned with Russia for the purpose of their survival. I do not criticize any state for seeking aid from yet another enemy of the US empire for assistance no matter how flawed that state may be.
I am not Pro-Russia.
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I am not Pro-Russia. I recognize the right of self determination of all people, and that does not put me in a position to criticize them when they can take support from whoever possible in the face of Nazism and Imperialism.
An invasion is not self-determination though. And surely nobody with half a brain buys the idea that the Russians weren't doing everything they could to incite and/or exacerbate problem in these regions to provide a useful pretext for the invasion. Including sending Russian neo-nazis to the region. It's so fucking obvious it barely needs pointing out, but since you have your blinkers on.
I do not criticize Iran for being aligned with Russia for the purpose of their survival. I do not criticize any state for seeking aid from yet another enemy of the US empire for assistance no matter how flawed that state may be.
Yep, that's the current notion of what "critical" support looks like. We don't do that here. Sometime the enemy of your enemy is also your enemy.
Pro Ukrainian state.
this is not an either/or situation. because you lack the imagination to envision a third option without ether state, does not have anything to do with anyone else. that is your own shortcoming.
“free state of Ukraine” follow it up with the Banderite slogan “slava Ukraini”
ukraine is a region. a free ukraine does not mean one controlled by a state. that is not freedom. also, at no point did @flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com say that.
Also my accusations of antisemitism are not “thinly veiled” I am literally telling you that since 2014 Azov and other elements of Ukrainian state forces have literally doing pogroms against not just ethnic Russians in the east, but Roma and Jews all over the country for over 12 years now. If you deny try is I just assume you’re a fascist.
it is funny you should mention that. since 2014 the russian imperial movement, a neo-nazi monarchist movement in russia has deployed militia to ukraine with the sanction of the russian government. a fact very conveniently left out of pro-russian leftists arguments. moth wonders why that is.
The free territory of ukraine is a different name for Makhnovshchina. Am sorry for causing confusion.
Shitty tankie framing is shitty.
Tankie tears :clap:
Just let them lie about users bro, that's left unity!!!
It’s very easy to be misinformed about one or more experiences here. Very easy to filter out things, or never know. It’s the perfect recipe for internet warriors to take no prisoners. So PTB here.
But I have long thought that many have no idea what they are talking about on lemmy, when supporting either side